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I suggest farming Hot, level bots, get vp keys and build infrastructure. Crying to GMs is not an effective long term plan. Otherwise, you are only wasting your time. | |||
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Actually, this is probably the most fun I've had playing an MMO. I hope you're able to enjoy it as much as we have. | |||
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Another witty, informative, and/or retarded post by:
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Okay guys, let's go through a history lesson real quick.
Eashen, LTK, Doze, and most of the northern wing ESPECIALLY Vulak will always be a shit show with rooted dragons. This time it was someone AFK in ST, next week it will be someone on the other side. How do I know? Because i've seen it for over 2 years now. The only time there wasn't issues at these mobs weekly was when Riot was the only guild really going after them. So in my eyes you have two options. Option 1: WhineQuest. Yes, they accidentally trained you again. At least it seems that way. 2 days later and 10 hours of fraps watched later, it was actually your own mage who missed the wall with an eyeball and agro'd those mobs. If you even get a resolution. To GM's and bystanders, the fraps looks like Chaos, with very little evidence of a smoking gun. To your guild, it's clear as day they trained you on purpose. To the other guild, you guys won't stop trying to rule lawyer your way into free mobs. Rinse, and repeat. Also hope your bringing 100 people to the raid, because you'll need it. Option 2 Civilized AdultQuest Full rotations should never be a thing for end game mobs. So you settle this with FTE races and lockouts. This would: Remove poop socking, the real ideal way to do this is to start race with a rolloff 5 minutes after spawn. Removes petition quest for every mob, you win FTE, or you don't, and then you move on. The most dedicated to getting end game loot will still end up getting it. AS IS INTENDED IN CLASSIC EVERQUEST. You lost? Practice and do better. (Although, NToV will become more of a crapshoot as there are so many mobs that can 1 round someone. This will give an advantage to guilds who have NO shot of killing a mob in NToV now, but realistically the more organized guilds will win the majority) Extend roll offs to 30 minutes for Dain and KT. WHY? BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED TO TURN IN THEIR QUESTS. WHO WANTS TO POOP SOCK A MOB FOR 14 HOURS TO MISS THEIR TURN IN BECAUSE THEY WERE IN THE BATHROOM FOR 45 SECONDS? THIS IS HUMANE. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Realistically, if somebody from ST accidentally retrained them because they were AFK, there shouldn't be additional punishment besides a concede. However, it's impossible to tell from an outside perspective if it WAS an accident, i'm sure the other guild felt wronged on purpose. Realistically it probably was just an accident. There are other things to consider though. Was there another mob up? If yes, ST should offer a pause until the other guild is fully rez'd. If not? No harm no foul, they lost the mob and had to concede, that's the punishment. Yes, the other guild will have to go through yet another corpse recovery..... but that's going to be week in and week out in ToV. Guild leaders, come together and figure out resolutions, because if you always rely on GM's to settle your petty disputes over something as chaotic as raiding NToV rooted dragons, you're going to have a bad time. (SEE: Bag limits, indifference, ETC.) Take note that the GM's don't have a special screen where they can tell who did what when and on purpose. Most logs are dropped after a mob drops agro. A GM floating above a raid as a wipe is happening pretty much isn't able to tell what exactly what's going down. And then from there, it becomes FrapsQuest... which is the absolute worst Quest this game offers. Raiding on P99 is more fun than raiding anywhere else though, in my opinion, so enjoy yourselves out there. 99 times out of 100, the other guild isn't acting nefariously, and is just as confused on what is happening as you are.
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Last edited by Twochain; 08-09-2021 at 01:17 PM..
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And the second you get competition in NTOV, what do you do? Send an individual out to dump a train on the other guild and coach your fall guy to claim it was an accident in /tells so your petition defense looks good? Just... LOL dude. They want FAIR competition. Not what you guys decide is competition. Your definition of competition is actually monopolization... the elimination of any true competition.
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The definition of competition on a PvE server is basically arbitrary.
Why FTE and not just DPS race? Why is training not allowed? Why are dragons rooted? Why can't a guild engage multiple targets in multiple zones? Why are there start lines, rules about CoTH, limits on number of trackers, etc? The competition might as well be "Have a foot race from ToV zone in to PoM. Winner picks x dragons for the next spawn cycle, then second place picks y dragons, and third picks z dragons". It's all arbitrary anyway. | ||
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I bring this up because The Blue server did this, and there was very little issues with that system. It sure beats bag limits. Which WILL be brought to ToV if green can't get their ducks in a row.
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