Torp/epic shaman - trouble with WW dragons!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm scared to talk about how to kill ww dragons with shaman.
My fear is the staff will make a change because "classic" environment.

The strategy I show in the video has been around for 3+ years at least. I doubt the devs do not know about it by now.

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Troll Shaman innoruuk get's a clickie snare necklace that DOES work on WW Dragons!! Never have to chase dragons into the water!

You can just root the dragon if you don't want to chase it. If you can get a WW dragon down to 20%, you should be able to go the rest of the way no problem. Here is a video showing rooting the dragon for no chase:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLhe3KQXke0

[Baler]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The strategy I show in the video has been around for 3+ years at least. I doubt the devs do not know about it by now.

Yeah the running to the shoreline is a proven strat that I won't argue about.
There are just a couple nicer spots, until then shoreline for 99% of people.

Also Shoreline is a safer pull simply because it's a shorter distance. For those who aren't confident weaving a dragon through adds, shoreline is the goto.

I've seen Necros killing WW dragons using the shoreline.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can just root the dragon if you don't want to chase it. If you can get a WW dragon down to 20%, you should be able to go the rest of the way no problem. Here is a video showing rooting the dragon for no chase:

Snared fleeing WW dragon does 0 damage.
Rooted fleeing WW dragon can hit you and do damage. But you prob wont be standing near it. Watch out for breath.

I'll take the snared ww dragon which eliminates the possibility. Especially since I do use a pet.
Mostly personal preference tbh.

blahblahblah,... The Troll Shm clickie snare is mana free. Sure it's a longer cast time but you're using zero mana to cast it.

@DeathsSilkyMist thank you for continuing to help people on the forums with shaman.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@DeathsSilkyMist thank you for continuing to help people on the forums with shaman.

You too, Baler. Good to see you back![You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Danth]

I reported the "stick it in the water to cheese the AE" trick as a possible 'sploit in '15 or maybe early '16. It's still here. I wouldn't worry about it getting changed, although I wish it would. I don't use it myself on general principle. However, since it has remained in-place for so long I regard it as having defacto sanction from P99 staff.

You don't need to be over-geared. The wife's shaman can do those and she has stuff like Thurgadin armor. Don't need Skyshrine, Temple Veeshan, Vindicator, Plane of Mischief, etc. People were solo'ing 'em wearing Kunark gear. I do recommend having the epic. The wife doesn't use the Shaman pet on the rare occasions she solo's them but you can use it if you want to. Main thing is to pace your mana use, not run yourself out from excessive amounts of damage spell usage. It's a marathon fight.

You do want sufficient junk buff clickies. You'll need about your first four slots or so filled that way. Also, some buffs you might not use often (like the AC buff) are useful here, so don't forget about it.

If you want to practice, use a shoreline dragon (Gafala, Pantrilla, Vitaela, Haecheva, etc) since they're easy pulls. Bratavar has a nicer drop but he's a trickier pull and in many cases the pull is the toughest part of it. Yeldema is the absolute easest to start with because it's an easy pull, doesn't have an AE effect, and doesn't flee until very low health due to waiting for enrage. You can try using Cripple (whatever equivalent is highest level) to see if it lowers your average DI roll intake some. There are differing opinions as to whether it works. Snare is great, root them if you have to, but it's a bit of a nightmare if they get into the water while fleeing so try to prevent that from happening.

Do NOT use some of the more rare plus 4's you might see on the P99 wiki for practice if you see them up (like Bufa) as some of them hit dramatically harder than the regular ones.

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On balance, these guys are dramatically more fun to duo than solo. Compared to the wife's Shaman, My Shadow Knight is a vastly superior puller in Western Wastes. Same would go for a Monk or Ranger or similar class.

Danth