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Old 07-18-2011, 09:18 PM
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People who do this aren't very bright.



Probably not just with a phone number, but its certainly a starting point when you want to profile someone for ID theft. Also, you'd be surprised how easy it is to have someone else's mobile phone number ported to another mobile phone, new service, new provider, etc in Australia.
Last post I make in this thread I swear, I stand by whatever Rogean decides to do to solve this issue in regards to account security.

But to tell you the truth I'm less worried about my ID being stolen then megacorp U.S.A. Inc profiling me and having more links to my real identity out of my direct control, yup I'm a hippy.

Honestly after investigating Google voice to, I seriously recommend it to anyone balking at having their real number out there. It gives you one free, you still have to tie it to yours or a friends number, but it provides one layer of obfuscation which I feel is pretty legit, Google has been known to stand up on occasion against government agents without warrents, as well as lawsuits from other corporations.
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:21 PM
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I'm a bit concerned because not too long ago someone was able to hack into the database and start deleting characters... what if someone hacked into eqemu and was able to find out my phone number? Sorry if I don't fully understand how it works.
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Old 07-19-2011, 01:05 AM
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People who do this aren't very bright.



Probably not just with a phone number, but its certainly a starting point when you want to profile someone for ID theft. Also, you'd be surprised how easy it is to have someone else's mobile phone number ported to another mobile phone, new service, new provider, etc in Australia.
Scary.

I don't like the idea.
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:42 PM
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OK, didn't see a reference to one time only - thanks for the clarification and it doesn't seem like a hardship to me.
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:42 PM
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Seems like a good idea but I'm sure it will be burdensome for some of the players.
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:04 PM
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Simply fucking amazing.

Not sure if I will use it, but to have the choice is stellar.

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Old 07-18-2011, 09:27 PM
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I have been considering (and already testing and will probably implement) a method to send text messages from our servers. I am going to start requiring all eqemu forum accounts to be tied to a phone number that will be used as a method to verify authenticity of accounts, as well as provide a method for resetting passwords of loginserver accounts.

The lack of a method of resetting loginserver accounts has been a problem for quite some time, and we have never had a real method to do so that wouldn't put other accounts in danger of being compromised at the same time.

We may also optionally allow the numbers to be used in a securid sort of way, for those that decide to enable it on their account. This would mean that in order to even log into the account on the loginserver and to connect to P99, you would need to enter both your account password as well as the pin number generated on the spot. This is much like the World of Warcraft Authenticator and the key fob that SoE will be coming out with also. This would be purely optional though (however mandatory for any staff gm/guide accounts on P99, and any other servers that request it).

I'm fairly confident that many of you in one way or another have access to a cell phone, even if it's not directly yours. I will also be providing verification via a phone call to US Based numbers, if you do not have access to an SMS capable device. This does however mean that people playing from outside the US will need to have a SMS-Enabled phone, or use a friend's. I have done a lot of testing for non-US numbers and most of them have succeeded using our system.

I am opening this for discussion as I want to hear people's opinions on this and possibly voice any concerns that we have overlooked.
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Let's find a way to tie this in somehow with our forums and not allowing anonymous accounts to access more than a select section of our forums without being verified first.
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:35 PM
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most of the issue with hacking/stealing/whatev accounts is (1) item theft and (2) character deletion.. or so I just now arbitrarily assigned. under the less invasive option, this still can't be stopped, correct?

maybe make another option that you must confirm character deletion (or any character above some level, or specifically flagged characters chosen by the owner, or whatever) via text or whatev you decide.

for item theft idk. I guess the only thing would be the invasive every-time thing.


yeah and I'd prefer like, an email instead of a text message? I kinda skimmed the responses and saw that but not sure if there's a problem with emailing over texting.
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:43 PM
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I like the idea of an authentication #, I used one for WoW.

But this is a free EMU, account security shouldnt be such an extreme procedure as to giving out your cell#.
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:51 PM
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maybe make another option that you must confirm character deletion (or any character above some level, or specifically flagged characters chosen by the owner, or whatever) via text or whatev you decide.
Character deletions aren't even permanent, and are very easy to restore. It's far more damaging to wreak havoc on your inventory giving your items away than it is to simply delete a character.
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