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Old 01-30-2022, 09:03 PM
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The cultural element "driving" it is that you no longer pay a huge penalty. There is nothing "driving" its, its always been there. Look at the stats, you're one of the sane people here. Sexuality is fluid at best and better than 10% are over the fence, gay. 20% or better are at least bi-curious. Thats one in five. Every 5th kid in the classroom.

Its not a driver. It just is. People are just more accepting but I feel like I know what you mean. Ive had a few people tell me they were gay or whatever and kind of expected me to spit my drink out or something. Like they wanted that "you're special" kind of reply or whatever. So yeah, lets say 1% are total frauds or at least in it for the likes on twitter lol.
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Old 01-30-2022, 09:04 PM
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I think it mainly depends on the region. I don't think many conservatives think it's happening everywhere (though some are definitely overstating it), I think most are more concerned about the trajectory it's heading, even if it's only happening in a handful of schools in super liberal cities currently. The characterization of these parents by the media is what really gets me.
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Old 01-30-2022, 09:06 PM
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The cultural element "driving" it is that you no longer pay a huge penalty. There is nothing "driving" its, its always been there. Look at the stats, you're one of the sane people here. Sexuality is fluid at best and better than 10% are over the fence, gay. 20% or better are at least bi-curious. Thats one in five. Every 5th kid in the classroom.

Its not a driver. It just is. People are just more accepting but I feel like I know what you mean. Ive had a few people tell me they were gay or whatever and kind of expected me to spit my drink out or something. Like they wanted that "you're special" kind of reply or whatever. So yeah, lets say 1% are total frauds or at least in it for the likes on twitter lol.
Culture among peers influences kids on everything. If a kid’s friends start saying they are goth, very likely a kid will say he/she is goth. Things about our identity spread among friend groups, positive behaviors and negative behaviors spread among friend groups. Cutting and self-harm is most often passed either from sibling to sibling or friend to friend. Sadly so does suicide

Culture plays a big role in a kid’s development
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Old 01-30-2022, 09:15 PM
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But isnt there something between kicking your kid out and just not being supportive? Not even neglecting them, but just not being a parent like they should. And its obvious, because it happens after the kids tells their parents. They start being treated differently. Lots of sighs at the dinner table etc. It doesnt have to be "i fucking hate you" to be like, extremely hurtful and damaging to a kids development.

My dad was a racist and told me racist things about bringing girls home. "they better not be no fucking __" and stuff like that. Shits hurtful to know your dad wouldnt support your relationship with someone you liked/loved because of their skin color.

Like that scene in zoolander when he went back to see his parents. Imagine how he felt.. I know thats ridiculous but to say its not a thing and doesnt happen. Begrudging approval, shame, embarrassment around other parents. The kids will pickup on that shit. Then to blame the school or books in school, which could help the kid, so lets take em away.. its just cruel if you ask me.
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Old 01-30-2022, 09:23 PM
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But in general, in most places in america, teenagers are pretty accepting. Its not a clique thing, its part of our national identity now. We dont give a shit if someone is gay and if you do you're a weirdo. That like 90% of millennials, they couldnt care less.

Are you saying its localized from school to school or on an even smaller level? Like clique to clique, join the gay clique, turn gay? That kind of thing..? Seriously. Its way too complicated of an issue to just say its so small like that.

Theres another thing I think we're missing. Its not permanent unless you want it to be, too. Like whats the issue with people trying something they now know is ok and they are not going to judged harshly or killed for it by their peers?
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Old 01-30-2022, 09:54 PM
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But isnt there something between kicking your kid out and just not being supportive? Not even neglecting them, but just not being a parent like they should. And its obvious, because it happens after the kids tells their parents. They start being treated differently. Lots of sighs at the dinner table etc. It doesnt have to be "i fucking hate you" to be like, extremely hurtful and damaging to a kids development.

My dad was a racist and told me racist things about bringing girls home. "they better not be no fucking __" and stuff like that. Shits hurtful to know your dad wouldnt support your relationship with someone you liked/loved because of their skin color.

Like that scene in zoolander when he went back to see his parents. Imagine how he felt.. I know thats ridiculous but to say its not a thing and doesnt happen. Begrudging approval, shame, embarrassment around other parents. The kids will pickup on that shit. Then to blame the school or books in school, which could help the kid, so lets take em away.. its just cruel if you ask me.
That’s why I said I don’t know what occurs behind closed doors. And what qualifies as emotional abuse is the greyest area of mandated reporting. For example, a parent is legally allowed to insult their kid occasionally, and we aren’t required to make a report to CPS because their parent calls them a lazy bum or dumb occasionally. It’s about how pervasive the insults are, and the psychological damage they seem to be doing to the kid

A parent having difficulty adjusting to their kid claiming they are trans especially early on, but APPEARING (since once again, behind closed doors is unknown) supportive in every other way is not grounds for a report, even from hardcore leftist co-workers

Other more extreme versions of unacceptance are not being communicated, which is not all that surprising, because these parents are typically going to be ones who have a lot of control over what their kid is disclosing and doing. I don’t have ongoing professional relationships with kids I see in my current job (in past jobs years ago I did but only a small caseload), and that’s also a factor in my anecdotal experience
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Old 01-30-2022, 10:29 PM
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What does the T stand for, mr old school? 😬
TrySexual as in I'll try anything.
Or, more correctly I dont care.
You cant accept others' weirdness (lets face it, its weird to wanna be called a paperclip or a poodle or gender non specific but whatev's) but expect everyone else to accept yours, weirdness that is.

You are weird to someone.
For any number of reasons.
You dont even need to understand or accept them.
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Old 01-30-2022, 10:50 PM
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From talking to co-workers, teachers, school counselors/psychologists, and people at other agencies in the behavioral health field…

…there is a difference about trans and non-binary versus gay/bi. All the parties I just mentioned, are noticeably more forgiving/less critical in regards to parents not accepting trans and non-binary. I think the newness of the ideas versus the idea of being gay plays a role, and the age of the guardian plays a role

For example, grandparents often get kinship placement of kids taken from parents by CPS or orphaned. I have never met a grandparent guardian yet who heard about their grandkid being non-binary and didn’t say something like “what the heck is non-binary?”. Then to have it explained that they don’t feel like either gender and them not saying something like “Nooo, they’re a boy[/girl]” And for the most part I think this can go on a surprisingly long time, as long as they are supportive in every other way. Most of behavioral health is leftist, but they allow a lot of leniency on non trans and non-binary acceptance, case by case, and influenced by I think those factors
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Democrat politicians in Pennsylvania diverted $4.2 billion from the gasoline tax that was supposed to go directly to the bridge that fell down and spent that on police instead.

Seriously Democrats are evil.
Jibartik wants to defund the police
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No, standard issue liberals hijacking and discrediting leftist movements for their own personal profit isn't new

I expect the same treatment of, say, Joel Osteen types when they capitalize on conservative values from the right, but they just keep overlooking that kind of stuff

Elliot Abrams worked for the United States government, and wielded far more power, as recently as January 2021 and this is the shit Fox News wants to get you worked up over lol
Nah dog, all values are wack yo, got big red hat feel good, you wear red hat you good too?
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