Cheating everywhere, GMs???

[zati]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I played P99 extensively for years. I have friends that have played past and present. I'm well aware of how things have been over the years and the forums are enough of an indicator to me that nothing has changed since I last played. It's a nice thought that the forums aren't indicative of the state of the game but historically that just isn't true and I have no reason to believe that's changed.





As others have said there was very little fighting or competition over raid mobs on a lot of servers back in the day. Many servers had GM enforced raid rotations directly going against the idea of competing as you claim was the intent. Instances were implemented as a direct result of the fighting/competition over mobs starting to get out of control on some servers because..... wait for it... they didn't want pve raiding to be competitive! It's very fucking clearly not intended. You have to do some serious mental gymnastics to argue otherwise. Everything spawns in real time because the game came out in fucking 1999 before instance/phasing technology existed. It was literally the only way they knew how to do things. You're literally arguing that FTE race style competition was intended because they made the game the only way they knew how to do so at the time. That's some hilarious shit :P

P.S. I wasn't banned for any of the reasons you stated. Good guesses tho!

You know yer talking to brick walls and trolls at this point now, right? I kinda concluded(Personally) that the top 1-5% raiders "need" this server the way it is to continue having a reason so why not let them(it's a community-based server afterall) you never know what struggles they have. My only reason for posting was to take wall-staring out of the equation entirely cause it directly affects the persons health behind the screen unbeknownst to other members and the 'possibility of cheating' (Not saying OP is correct) enable other players to try to one-up said person. Also saying P99 is an E-sport needs to stop. This isn't Starcraft or some blizzard ranked game with a ladder system. Anyways eff this thread it should be locked! It was entertaining to me 50 pages of pure garbage.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by zati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know yer talking to brick walls and trolls at this point now, right? I kinda concluded(Personally) that the top 1-5% raiders "need" this server the way it is to continue having a reason so why not let them(it's a community-based server afterall) you never know what struggles they have. My only reason for posting was to take wall-staring out of the equation entirely cause it directly affects the persons health behind the screen unbeknownst to other members and the 'possibility of cheating' (Not saying OP is correct) enable other players to try to one-up said person. Also saying P99 is an E-sport needs to stop. This isn't Starcraft or some blizzard ranked game with a ladder system. Anyways eff this thread it should be locked! It was entertaining to me 50 pages of pure garbage.

Claiming people are brick walls or trolls for disagreeing with you is silly. If the majority of the server agreed with you, they would have changed the rules, or the population would have tanked by now.

The continued healthy population of the server disproves any notion that the majority prefer something like rotations or instancing. Remember, TLP has been around for years, so people would have completely abandoned P99 years ago if they really wanted instancing/rotations.

Also, assuming a non-instanced MMO isn't competitive is equally silly. When scarcity exists, competition arises. If you don't want competition, play a game with instancing.

[zati]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Claiming people are brick walls or trolls for disagreeing with you is silly. If the majority of the server agreed with you, they would have changed the rules, or the population would have tanked by now.

The continued healthy population of the server disproves any notion that the majority prefer something like rotations or instancing. Remember, TLP has been around for years, so people would have completely abandoned P99 years ago if they really wanted instancing/rotations.

Also, assuming a non-instanced MMO isn't competitive is equally silly. When scarcity exists, competition arises. If you don't want competition, play a game with instancing.

EQ isn't an E-sport.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by zati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ isn't an E-sport.

I never said it was, and neither is anyone else here in the thread besides you. Competition != to an ESport.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the majority of the server agreed with you, they would have changed the rules, or the population would have tanked by now

LOL this is the funniest post of this thread so far congrats

What the majority wants means nothing to those in charge. They have their goals and agendas that we can argue over but rest assured they will pursue whatever it is that their vision/goal is regardless of what any of us want. If I've learned anything playing/spectating this server for 10+ years that's it. Also all jokes aside there's a large amount of people with addiction and mental health issues on this server. Like not even saying that as an insult/troll I legitimately believe that to be the case. They won't quit under almost any circumstance.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL this is the funniest post of this thread so far congrats

What the majority wants means nothing to those in charge. They have their goals and agendas that we can argue over but rest assured they will pursue whatever it is that their vision/goal is regardless of what any of us want. If I've learned anything playing/spectating this server for 10+ years that's it. Also all jokes aside there's a large amount of people with addiction and mental health issues on this server. Like not even saying that as an insult/troll I legitimately believe that to be the case. They won't quit under almost any circumstance.

Last time I checked the majority of the player base are not being forced to play against their will.

If people really didn't like what the Dev's were doing, they would just stop playing. People vote with their feet unless they are being held at gunpoint. Also, the Dev's have listened to the community in the past. But that doesn't mean they have to acquiesce to all of your demands lol.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Last time I checked the majority of the player base are not being forced to play against their will.

If people really didn't like what the Dev's were doing, they would just stop playing. People vote with their feet unless they are being held at gunpoint.

You don't understand the level of addiction and mental problems going on here if you truly believe this. I know people that played for YEARS and hated every aspect of the endgame here. They just kept clinging on to hope that EVENTUALLY "something's gotta give" and the amount of toxicity and stupidity surrounding the endgame would force the staff to make changes that ultimately never happened. Have you not been around very long? Do you not remember like years and years of threads and meetings between guild councils and staff to try to get changes made that all basically accomplished nothing? Do you think all those people all those years were perfectly happy with everything and would just quit if they weren't? Rofl cmon bro. Do you not remember Chest throwing in the towel on P99 endgame and taking like 100 people with him to Phinigel?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't understand the level of addiction and mental problems going on here if you truly believe this. I know people that played for YEARS and hated every aspect of the endgame here. They just kept clinging on to hope that EVENTUALLY "something's gotta give" and the amount of toxicity and stupidity surrounding the endgame would force the staff to make changes that ultimately never happened. Have you not been around very long? Do you not remember like years and years of threads and meetings between guild councils and staff to try to get changes made that all basically accomplished nothing? Do you think all those people all those years were perfectly happy with everything and would just quit if they weren't? Rofl cmon bro. Do you not remember Chest throwing in the towel on P99 endgame and taking like 100 people with him to Phinigel?

I have been around since 2014 or so. The population has steadily gone up, and remained where it is now for a few years. Obviously those people you are talking about like the game, or they would quit. And the majority of casual players are not like this. So I am not sure what you are trying to drive at here.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have been around since 2014 or so. The population has steadily gone up, and remained where it is now for a few years. Obviously those people you are talking about like the game, or they would quit. And the majority of casual players are not like this. So I am not sure what you are trying to drive at here.

There has been a big drop in the aussie night time / euro day time a few years ago and it never picked back up, not really even during locks (which is the time it would have happened if ever). American evening times seem busier than ever.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't understand the level of addiction and mental problems going on here if you truly believe this. I know people that played for YEARS and hated every aspect of the endgame here. They just kept clinging on to hope that EVENTUALLY "something's gotta give" and the amount of toxicity and stupidity surrounding the endgame would force the staff to make changes that ultimately never happened. Have you not been around very long? Do you not remember like years and years of threads and meetings between guild councils and staff to try to get changes made that all basically accomplished nothing? Do you think all those people all those years were perfectly happy with everything and would just quit if they weren't? Rofl cmon bro. Do you not remember Chest throwing in the towel on P99 endgame and taking like 100 people with him to Phinigel?

I suspect that you didn't get something you want in everquest.

Also the word "toxicity" and "toxic" are useless. It just means "a thing I don't like". Nobody cares if you call something toxic, you have to enunciate what you actually mean and specifically who or what you're talking about.

I've literally been playing here since 2010, not that it matters. But it's not anything new, it's everquest politics on a non-instanced server. You might say it all feels quite classic.