5-4 incoming?

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know who doesn't use birth control? The same ones that want abortions. Now I'm not talking about in cases of rape, incest or a pregnancy that risks the death of the mother. I'm talking those idiots that want to use abortion as a form of birth control instead of using the birth control that can (mostly) prevent it in the first place.

"Omg I'm pregnant from that unprotected sex when I'm not on the pill." Well yeah, that's kind of what happens you moron. And you should have the right to kill that new human being because you were stupid?

You looking around man? We have lots of morons

Anyway, I just don’t think repealing roe solves anything. It will be legal in 50% of the country and illegal in another 50%. This is just a way for both parties to ignore systemic issues, like poor education. Our education system is garbage and anyone with kids knows this. We don’t even discuss this

We talk about roe v wade, something that doesn’t even matter to the overwhelmingly majority of us but will rally the militant bases of both left and right

Someone needs to bring back Ross Perot from the grave

[Horza]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and babies just have to be to be put to death. How can any society allow that? Again, barring certain extreme circumstances.

Probably because the highest courts in most other developed countries haven't been hijacked by fundamentalist Christians just yet.

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and babies just have to be to be put to death. How can any society allow that? Again, barring certain extreme circumstances.

All of Europe allows this except for maybe Poland and Russia. You think all the Europeans are immoral pieces of shit? They clearly aren’t. It’s just a different take on the issue

I think it should be legal up to viability and I don’t think it’s murder. I assure you, gun to my head I believe in God and believe it’s wrong. I just don’t think it’s healthy for us to impose our morals on other people.

Granted, my family left Iran after my uncle died and my father fought in war and in return they started asking my mother why she wasn’t going to mosque. My dad’s response as a Muslim was basically even we aren’t good enough for you? I fought for you and my brother died for you, but we aren’t Godly enough?

From my perspective, the modern Republican Party and this impulse to tell me that “abortion is murder!” (That is a very strong statement. You imply demonization of your opponents etc), resembles a lot of the theocratic elements of Iran. Calling everyone a pedophile is like that too. I have three kids and voted OVERWHELMINGLY republicans in my life, but because I voted for Biden I’m so evil that I’m a groomer??? That said, I don’t like debt, open borders, NIMBYism present in democratic led states, so they get a lot of shit wrong too. But letting the most religiously extreme direct the Republican Party seems to me to be a huge mistake.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Probably because the highest courts in most other developed countries haven't been hijacked by fundamentalist Christians just yet.

Have you even bothered to research abortion laws in other countries?

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Probably because the highest courts in most other developed countries haven't been hijacked by fundamentalist Christians just yet.

? fundies are prots. the tromp trio are catholic.

[Rethalis]

Originally Posted by Kaveh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of Europe allows this except for maybe Poland and Russia. You think all the Europeans are immoral pieces of shit? They clearly aren’t. It’s just a different take on the issue

I think it should be legal up to viability and I don’t think it’s murder. I assure you, gun to my head I believe in God and believe it’s wrong. I just don’t think it’s healthy for us to impose our morals on other people.

Granted, my family left Iran after my uncle died and my father fought in war and in return they started asking my mother why she wasn’t going to mosque. My dad’s response as a Muslim was basically even we aren’t good enough for you? I fought for you and my brother died for you, but we aren’t Godly enough?

From my perspective, the modern Republican Party and this impulse to tell me that “abortion is murder!” (That is a very strong statement. You imply demonization of your opponents etc), resembles a lot of the theocratic elements of Iran. Calling everyone a pedophile is like that too. I have three kids and voted OVERWHELMINGLY republicans in my life, but because I voted for Biden I’m so evil that I’m a groomer??? That said, I don’t like debt, open borders, NIMBYism present in democratic led states, so they get a lot of shit wrong too. But letting the most religiously extreme direct the Republican Party seems to me to be a huge mistake.

Premeditated killing of another human is murder.

Would you like to play the blurry nuance game of what constitutes a human being?

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by Kaveh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of Europe allows this except for maybe Poland and Russia. You think all the Europeans are immoral pieces of shit? They clearly aren’t. It’s just a different take on the issue

I think it should be legal up to viability and I don’t think it’s murder. I assure you, gun to my head I believe in God and believe it’s wrong. I just don’t think it’s healthy for us to impose our morals on other people.

Granted, my family left Iran after my uncle died and my father fought in war and in return they started asking my mother why she wasn’t going to mosque. My dad’s response as a Muslim was basically even we aren’t good enough for you? I fought for you and my brother died for you, but we aren’t Godly enough?

From my perspective, the modern Republican Party and this impulse to tell me that “abortion is murder!” (That is a very strong statement. You imply demonization of your opponents etc), resembles a lot of the theocratic elements of Iran. Calling everyone a pedophile is like that too. I have three kids and voted OVERWHELMINGLY republicans in my life, but because I voted for Biden I’m so evil that I’m a groomer??? That said, I don’t like debt, open borders, NIMBYism present in democratic led states, so they get a lot of shit wrong too. But letting the most religiously extreme direct the Republican Party seems to me to be a huge mistake.

This isn't imposing morals, it's looking out for the most vulnerable of all: the unborn.

I am one that believes life begins at conception. Human life. That is why birth control is important. It stops conception. Listen, I don't even hurt bugs. Whenever I can I capture them and bring them outside. Life is way too precious, innocent human life especially, and it should be cherished. Where else in the universe does it exist?

There are too many that don't want to bother with birth control and yet want to destroy new human life because they can't keep their cooch shut.

The thing is this Roe vs Wade decision isn't making abortion illegal, it's just giving the power to the states to decide. I'm all for giving more power to the states and less to the feds.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Rethalis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Premeditated killing of another human is murder.

Would you like to play the blurry nuance game of what constitutes a human being?

I know, its you have to be able to fend for yourself, so like at some point during the teens.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The thing is this Roe vs Wade decision isn't making abortion illegal, it's just giving the power to the states to decide. I'm all for giving more power to the states and less to the feds.

johnny up to his old tricks, that greyback rascal.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

? fundies are prots. the tromp trio are catholic.

Who exactly do you think put them there?