5-4 incoming?

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I used to be pro abortion for all the same reasons as 60% of this country, but I remember just one day thinking about how things I believed, may not actually work the way they do and I just wondered where I personally would define life, and it was at the construction of our unique genetic code that once destroyed is gone forever, and if not destroyed would naturally turn into an asshole teeanger I'd have to argue with about this online in 14 years.



stereotypes and hyperbole.



find it hard to believe that you dont think the better management is population control based on the current conversation [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think of it as a reverse draft, who needs population control when we have widespread poverty

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point I am making is not that these are always equivalent, it's that you fellas do just as much post-death justification as the people you're criticizing of doing that. Which is hypocrisy. Opposition to the right to an abortion is not pro-life, it's anti-choice. Which is exceptionally hypocritical given all other things conservatives claim to value, and certainly authoritarian

By that logic opposition to murder is also anti-choice. And I don't think that is a very good argument.

I am not sure why you assume only conservatives support war. I lived through Bush and Obama. They both supported the war, so you really can't make that argument either.

Again, you are comparing apples to oranges. Wars are different from murder and abortion. You can't claim being pro-life means you must be anti-war. If the only qualification for being anti-war is you don't want to see people getting killed, war would have ceased to exist centuries ago. Sadly wars are not as simple as that.

[robayon]

Bush and Obama are both conservatives

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think of it as a reverse draft, who needs population control when we have widespread poverty

I've read we don't really get to overpopulation on a global scale till we get ten billion plus, then it mostly comes down to fresh water. Regionally, it would depend I assume

I think I follow the wolf and the deer theory, which is when they put the wolves in the nature reserve, it increased the number of deer, because the animals had better food, because idk theres a cool story about it. (saying it that way makes me think you could find a good moral argument for abortion, you just have to admit you are behaving like a preditor or a wolf's roll in nature)

Anyway, I figure, that when overpopulation becomes a problem, we have natural things in our behavior to slow our growth the same way as the wolf/deer nature reserve story. Like lower birth rates (hopefully not by destroying the babies but just because we have less sex when we have more toys) anyway, most places where quality of life is the highest, birth rates are the lowest, naturally, so I think that's an example of that so thats my personal take on OP not being a real issue.

if quality of life does not inrease but population does, they all eat each other, so either way there is a natural population governor built into us.

But that's just my take on that one, my take on abortion is a unique genetic code that is capable of being a human being = human being.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bush and Obama are both conservatives

This is incorrect. If Obama was a conservative, he wouldn't have supported something like Obama care. That was quite progressive.

[Horza]

If Obama was a conservative then why is he only half white? Checkmate, libs.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If Obama was a conservative then why is he only half white? Checkmate, libs.

The only person bringing up his race here is yourself, you racist.

[Jibartik]

I dont like people that use the n word.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point I am making is not that these are always equivalent, it's that you fellas do just as much post-death justification as the people you're criticizing of doing that. Which is hypocrisy. Opposition to the right to an abortion is not pro-life, it's anti-choice. Which is exceptionally hypocritical given all other things conservatives claim to value, and certainly authoritarian

Hypocrisy is a child's argument.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only person bringing up his race here is yourself, you racist.

The Democrats aren't sending their best. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists.