Thought Experiment: How Could Rotations Be Competitive?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They will certainly try. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At this point I can only assume you haven't raided a lot on P99. The top guild is going to be considerably more equipped and well manned than the other guilds on P99. They wouldn't be the top guild otherwise lol. They WILL monopolize Sontalak and encourage their members to attend the Sontalak kill with DKP bonuses and whatnot. I am not sure how you think the other guilds will stand a chance against the top guild's resources, plus trying to kill Sontalak, who is very difficult and costs a good amount of money to kill.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At this point I can only assume you haven't raided a lot on P99. The top guild is going to be considerably more equipped and well manned than the other guilds on P99. They wouldn't be the top guild otherwise lol. They WILL monopolize Sontalak and encourage their members to attend the Sontalak kill with DKP bonuses and whatnot. I am not sure how you think the other guilds will stand a chance against the top guild's resources, plus trying to kill Sontalak, who is very difficult and costs a good amount of money to kill.

I'm well aware of all that. If you don't like Sontalak as gatekeeper, suggest something else. I'm all ears.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm well aware of all that. If you don't like Sontalak as gatekeeper, suggest something else. I'm all ears.

It honestly doesn't matter who the "gatekeeper" mob is, because the top guild WILL monopolize them every week. Even if you made it something easy like Nagafen, the top guild is going to have way more level 52 alts who are better equipped. That is the flaw with your idea. The real "gatekeeper" is the top guild, not the mob assigned to be the "gatekeeper".

Rotations are designed to prevent monopolization of content from one or two guilds, and your idea doesn't really do that.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It honestly doesn't matter who the "gatekeeper" mob is, because the top guild WILL monopolize them every week. Even if you made it something easy like Nagafen, the top guild is going to have way more level 52 alts who are better equipped. That is the flaw with your idea. The real "gatekeeper" is the top guild, not the mob assigned to be the "gatekeeper".

Rotations are designed to prevent monopolization of content from one or two guilds, and your idea doesn't really do that.

You haven't named a mob that would be fair. I said Sontalak, what do you say?

Guilds aren't unbeatable no matter how much pomp they feel.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You haven't named a mob that would be fair. I said Sontalak, what do you say?

Guilds aren't unbeatable no matter how much pomp they feel.

For most casual guilds the top guild is hard to beat. If the random spawn times stayed the same, that means casual guilds wouldn't be able to kill the "gatekeeper" mob the majority of the time, because it isn't even going to spawn at a time where they can get enough people to compete with the top guild. The top guild is going to have trackers 24/7 and the hardcore players are going to make the "gatekeeper" mob their top priority.

As I said before, the specific mob is irrelevant, because the top guild can clear all content faster and more consistently than everybody else, at any time of day.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For most casual guilds the top guild is hard to beat. If the random spawn times stayed the same, that means casual guilds wouldn't be able to kill the "gatekeeper" mob the majority of the time, because it isn't even going to spawn at a time where they can get enough people to compete with the top guild. The top guild is going to have trackers 24/7 and the hardcore players are going to make the "gatekeeper" mob their top priority.

As I said before, the specific mob is irrelevant, because the top guild can clear all content faster and more consistently than everybody else, at any time of day.

Aren't you anti rotation in most of this thread?

Explain your opposition to me now. 😛

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aren't you anti rotation in most of this thread?

Explain your opposition to me now. 😛

Your idea is bad. I would love to see someone have a good idea for "competitive rotations", but it is highly unlikely to occur, due to the antithetical nature of rotations and competition.