Solo Barbarian Shaman Stat Allocation

[Naethyn]

I recant everything I said and I go with what the guy in the polar bear hat says for shaman related things.

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You really need to stop projecting fantasies on to other users. It just causes you to lose objectivity when reading posts. It's a very bad habit. This thread is also not just for OP, since other people besides him read it. It isn't like each thread is restricted to being read by OP alone.

Exactly.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Just to be thorough, there is one reason why you would want to dump into STA as your starting stat. That is to save a buff slot by capping STA without the need for Riotous Health and/or Primal Essence. Saving buff slots is very useful, and not always easy to do.

However, I myself run at full buffs and don't really feel the need to reduce my buff count by one. Shamans do run out of useful buffs to cast on themselves. This strategy would only really be useful to someone who knows the game well, and is anticipating running a specific set of buffs that would be hindered by having Riotous Health present.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just to be thorough, there is one reason why you would want to dump into STA as your starting stat if you play exactly like I do.

FTFY

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FTFY

You need to learn how to read lol. I am helping people out by giving them information on when starting stats can be useful. You are just being a child.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You need to learn how to read lol. I am helping people out by giving them information on when starting stats can be useful. You are just being a child.

You are making proclamations about what's "best" for you, as if it was best for everyone ... when it's not. I'm calling you out on it. How childish of me.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are making proclamations about what's "best" for you, as if it was best for everyone ... when it's not. I'm calling you out on it. How childish of me.

Except I am not, and you are not calling out anything. How many ways do you think there are to play this game? You have this strange idea there are thousands of possibilities when picking starting stats, and I happened to just pull one of them out of thin air to serve my purposes lol.

[loramin]

Simple example: there are, objectively, more than one reason to pick Stamina ... and yet you claimed:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just to be thorough, there is one reason

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Simple example: there are, objectively, more than one reason to pick Stamina ... and yet you claimed:

You are just being a spoiled child. You are angry because your "reasons" for picking STA aren't very good, which is why I didn't include them. In reality (not Loramin world), 75HP at level 60 or 30ish HP at level 30 isn't going to help you in a significant way. That is fact, regardless of whether you can accept it. Removing the need for a buff is going to factually help you more than 75HP, and thus it is worth mentioning.

WIS is harder to cap, and thus in general you will get a better stat distribution when starting with points in WIS. You will cap STA and have higher WIS simultaneously. Don't take my word for it, look at all the Shaman items in the game and all the buffs. You will see it is easier to cap STA in this era, without raid gear.

There really is no other way to see it. STA and WIS only increase HP/Mana, so the scope of how the starting stats affect your gameplay is quite narrow. It isn't some starry field with endless possibilities.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are just being a spoiled child. You are angry because your "reasons" for picking STA aren't very good, which is why I didn't include them. In reality (not Loramin world), 75HP at level 60 or 30ish HP at level 30 isn't going to help you in a significant way. That is fact, regardless of whether you can accept it. Removing the need for a buff is going to factually help you more than 75HP, and thus it is worth mentioning.

WIS is harder to cap, and thus in general you will get a better stat distribution when starting with points in WIS. You will cap STA and have higher WIS simultaneously. Don't take my word for it, look at all the Shaman items in the game and all the buffs. You will see it is easier to cap STA in this era, without raid gear.

There really is no other way to see it. STA and WIS only increase HP/Mana, so the scope of how the starting stats affect your gameplay is quite narrow. It isn't some starry field with endless possibilities.

Unlike you, I don't need to resort to insults or personal attacks to make a logical argument.

Simple question: which is more valuable to a Shaman leveling up: HP or mana? Which will make them level faster?

I submit that HP will. As evidence, I've never in my leveling life ever (not even once) died because I started a fight at max mana, burned through 100% of it, and then died because I didn't have more mana. But I have died (many times) when I started at max HP, burned through all my HP, and died for lack of a few more.

To be clear, if you're not starting at max, your maximums are irrelevant: if you start a fight with 500 mana, it doesn't matter whether you could have started that fight with 600 mana or 6000 mana.

So, what's your evidence that having more maximum mana helps you level faster? Or do you agree, HP will help you level faster?