Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean you're all obviously wrong. It's Rogue/Rogue/Rogue/Cleric.

Cleric root tanks everything and then you've got rezzes for when everyone dies.

Lol yes, a Rogue has superior DPS to a Mage. The Last one I parsed in Seb was doing around 133 DPS per kill just with Epic, a good offhand, and Celerity.

OP was asking for a group with Casters/Priests only, so for this specific exercise Rogues are disqualified.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could spend that time collecting data to prove your claims. The argument would be over if you could provide the data that definitively proves your points.

We have yet to seen you join a fast moving full group and do a few hours of fast paced fast killing grind to parse and show us how awesome shamans are at dps … only some napkin math and a log of you soloing a low level frog with your fancy pants dots that are worthless with the fights are 20-30sec long.

But by all means …

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[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You’re thinking concretely again ..

We should come up with a DSM bingo card set … or better yet a buzz word drinking game. Actually that’s a bad idea as given how often he posts and how often he says the same exact things we’d all be dead from alcohol poisoning in about 45-90 minutes depending on your tolerance.

Honestly, I just wanted to bring in that autism is irrelevant to this discussion, and here I am making a mistake adding more fuel to the fire which is DSM's inane ramblings.

My apologies to you guys.

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You’re thinking concretely again ..

We should come up with a DSM bingo card set … or better yet a buzz word drinking game. Actually that’s a bad idea as given how often he posts and how often he says the same exact things we’d all be dead from alcohol poisoning in about 45-90 minutes depending on your tolerance.

I like DSM. He can debate things to death which I love about him. I like debating myself. I think he puts a lot of thought into things and is quick to help others with a post.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You’re thinking concretely again ..

We should come up with a DSM bingo card set … or better yet a buzz word drinking game. Actually that’s a bad idea as given how often he posts and how often he says the same exact things we’d all be dead from alcohol poisoning in about 45-90 minutes depending on your tolerance.

I'm a teetotaler so I like the card game idea better.

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like DSM. He can debate things to death which I love about him. I like debating myself. I think he puts a lot of thought into things and is quick to help others with a post.

He's kind of a like a pit bull: When he bites onto something, he doesn't let go, and tends to hold on longer than others might. As with the pit bull, don't give him a reason to bite and he's good company.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean you're all obviously wrong. It's Rogue/Rogue/Rogue/Cleric.

Cleric root tanks everything and then you've got rezzes for when everyone dies.

The OP (62 pages ago) was asking about the best 4 man caster group. Rogue (likely multiple) would definitely be part of a "best 4 man group" that includes melee.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like DSM. He can debate things to death which I love about him. I like debating myself. I think he puts a lot of thought into things and is quick to help others with a post.

Found the VQ guildy

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like DSM. He can debate things to death which I love about him. I like debating myself. I think he puts a lot of thought into things and is quick to help others with a post.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We have yet to seen you join a fast moving full group and do a few hours of fast paced fast killing grind to parse and show us how awesome shamans are at dps … only some napkin math and a log of you soloing a low level frog with your fancy pants dots that are worthless with the fights are 20-30sec long.

But by all means …

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A Mage's DPS is also going to be lower in a fight that is 20-30 seconds long[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Boots_of_Bladecalling has a 17 second cast, so you are only getting off 1 per fight.

Your DS is also losing about half of it's DPS.

So a Mage fighting a Mob that lives for 30 seconds is doing 56 DPS from Pet + 7 DPS from DS + 20 DPS from https://wiki.project1999.com/Boots_of_Bladecalling (600 / 30). That is a total of 83 DPS.

A Shaman is going to do 2x Ice Strikes (1350 / 2) = 45 DPS, plus roughly 15 DPS from their pet for a total of 60 DPS.

You are looking at a difference of 23 DPS on average in a fight that has already been made 30 seconds long due to the 2x Enchanter pets, NOT the Mage lol.

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by Kich867

I mean you're all obviously wrong. It's Rogue/Rogue/Rogue/Cleric.

Cleric root tanks everything and then you've got rezzes for when everyone dies.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol yes, a Rogue has superior DPS to a Mage. The Last one I parsed in Seb was doing around 133 DPS per kill just with Epic, a good offhand, and Celerity.

OP was asking for a group with Casters/Priests only, so for this specific exercise Rogues are disqualified.

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The OP (62 pages ago) was asking about the best 4 man caster group. Rogue (likely multiple) would definitely be part of a "best 4 man group" that includes melee.

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[Troxx]

DSM. Download GamParse. Get a 6 man group that’s dps heavy (charming chanter, tunare monk, and raid geared knight). Get down to seb and join the group as a dps toon. Show us what you can do! You begged for logs, parses and evidence from me but thus far have only provided napkin math from you.

-No need to worry that you can’t parse your epic dot or other dots as they will be garbage dps when you have 30 seconds or less
-you’re probably better of nuking
-I recommend you get a max pet that doubles for 52 (not lower)
-probably be helpful if you str/focus stack your pet to ensure more max hits

No more napkin math.
No more logs of you solo dotting low level frogs
No more “but I can totally root rot 4-5 mobs parallel to the group”

Will you commit?