Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People are reading it, and are probably appalled at your behavior lol. You can stop posting any time[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you presume to assume how others feel about PlsNoBan (or any other poster's) behavior?

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's never too late to admit you are wrong. Nobody will think less of you.

It's never too late to parse your Shaman doing DPS in a high-level, fast-killing group in order to compare parses with a friendly Mage player Troxx, if you're feeling like you'd rather not puss out and concede. A handful of folks might even think more highly of you. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The real data, for people who want to learn:

I'm not sure whether anybody wants or needs to learn how to root rot 1-X mobs on their Shaman from you (I certainly don't)... but what I am sure of is that the evidence you are providing is not what you were requested to provide, nor even close to it - and no matter how many times you copy and paste the same thing it won't change this fact.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Great. You can stop posting then[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For people who want to learn, here is the current data:

Why not just add your faulty "data" to your signature so you don't have to copy paste it every time? Imagine how many people in other threads you could educate with your excellent data math!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why not just add your faulty "data" to your signature so you don't have to copy paste it every time? Imagine how many people in other threads you could educate with your excellent data math!

Continue racking up posts that just make you look bad! It isn't hurting me[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Please ignore the trolls.

For the people who want to learn and see the actual data:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Here is Troxx's data for reference. It is using his own standards of being in a group for an extended period of time. He is doing... 79 DPS (without damage shield). It is the precise number I calculated. His DPS is 40 simply because he is nuking more per encounter, but math-wise this also means they aren't pulling mobs that fast. His previous encounter data shows an average kill speed of 36 seconds, and he has yet to provide average kill speed for this data set.

There are two ways you can interpret this data:

1. You can believe Troxx, who is claiming his DPS parser is undervaluing the data by 30%. If that is true, then honestly all of the data he has posted so far is meaningless because his parser is wrong, and he needs to get a better parser.

2. GamParse did it's job and parsed Troxx's DPS correctly. The reason why he thinks the data is undervalued by 30% is because his similarly equipped Monk can do 70 DPS when he isn't pulling. That is where he is getting the 30% number, 70 x 0.7 = 49. The flaw in Troxx's logic is the Monk is only losing 30% DPS because he is pulling, NOT because the parser is wrong. Troxx isn't pulling, he is just sitting in camp DPSing and parsing. He is not losing any DPS, so there is no 30% loss for him. He is basically falsely assuming that if the Monk loses 30% DPS, everybody else is losing 30% DPS too. The parser is correct, and Troxx is wrong.

Either way, he basically has nothing to back up his silly points. The burden of proof now lies on him to either provide better data, or prove his parser is undervaluing all DPS by 30%, and not just the Monk who is pulling lol.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=638 - Here is real objective data for DPS comparisons between a Mage and a Shaman, using a level 49 Sebilis Mob. A Shaman can do 55.2 DPS, a Mage can do 82.7 with damage shield. The difference is only 27.5 DPS. This is a level 60 Mage vs. a level 60 Shaman, no clickies or mana buffs, and assuming the group is killing a mob every 36 seconds.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Continue racking up posts that just make you look bad! It isn't hurting me[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Please ignore the trolls.

For the people who want to learn and see the actual data:

Wanna take a poll? I'll place a LARGE wager that more people believe your posts look bad than mine do. You down?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wanna take a poll? I'll place a LARGE wager that more people believe your posts look bad than mine do. You down?

Sure. If You, Troxx, etc. don't vote there won't be a single vote against me lol. Your post history is just full of you looking like an asshole for the past 50+ posts.

For the people who want to learn, here is the current data so far:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Here is Troxx's data for reference. It is using his own standards of being in a group for an extended period of time. He is doing... 79 DPS (without damage shield). It is the precise number I calculated. His DPS is 40 simply because he is nuking more per encounter, but math-wise this also means they aren't pulling mobs that fast. His previous encounter data shows an average kill speed of 36 seconds, and he has yet to provide average kill speed for this data set.

There are two ways you can interpret this data:

1. You can believe Troxx, who is claiming his DPS parser is undervaluing the data by 30%. If that is true, then honestly all of the data he has posted so far is meaningless because his parser is wrong, and he needs to get a better parser.

2. GamParse did it's job and parsed Troxx's DPS correctly. The reason why he thinks the data is undervalued by 30% is because his similarly equipped Monk can do 70 DPS when he isn't pulling. That is where he is getting the 30% number, 70 x 0.7 = 49. The flaw in Troxx's logic is the Monk is only losing 30% DPS because he is pulling, NOT because the parser is wrong. Troxx isn't pulling, he is just sitting in camp DPSing and parsing. He is not losing any DPS, so there is no 30% loss for him. He is basically falsely assuming that if the Monk loses 30% DPS, everybody else is losing 30% DPS too. The parser is correct, and Troxx is wrong.

Either way, he basically has nothing to back up his silly points. The burden of proof now lies on him to either provide better data, or prove his parser is undervaluing all DPS by 30%, and not just the Monk who is pulling lol.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=638 - Here is real objective data for DPS comparisons between a Mage and a Shaman, using a level 49 Sebilis Mob. A Shaman can do 55.2 DPS, a Mage can do 82.7 with damage shield. The difference is only 27.5 DPS. This is a level 60 Mage vs. a level 60 Shaman, no clickies or mana buffs, and assuming the group is killing a mob every 36 seconds.

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[DeathsSilkyMist]

Troxx says his own data isn't accurate but thinks he can criticize mine.
Troxx says his own data isn't accurate but thinks he can criticize mine.
Troxx says his own data isn't accurate but thinks he can criticize mine.
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For people who want to learn, this is the current data:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Here is Troxx's data for reference. It is using his own standards of being in a group for an extended period of time. He is doing... 79 DPS (without damage shield). It is the precise number I calculated. His DPS is 40 simply because he is nuking more per encounter, but math-wise this also means they aren't pulling mobs that fast. His previous encounter data shows an average kill speed of 36 seconds, and he has yet to provide average kill speed for this data set.

There are two ways you can interpret this data:

1. You can believe Troxx, who is claiming his DPS parser is undervaluing the data by 30%. If that is true, then honestly all of the data he has posted so far is meaningless because his parser is wrong, and he needs to get a better parser.

2. GamParse did it's job and parsed Troxx's DPS correctly. The reason why he thinks the data is undervalued by 30% is because his similarly equipped Monk can do 70 DPS when he isn't pulling. That is where he is getting the 30% number, 70 x 0.7 = 49. The flaw in Troxx's logic is the Monk is only losing 30% DPS because he is pulling, NOT because the parser is wrong. Troxx isn't pulling, he is just sitting in camp DPSing and parsing. He is not losing any DPS, so there is no 30% loss for him. He is basically falsely assuming that if the Monk loses 30% DPS, everybody else is losing 30% DPS too. The parser is correct, and Troxx is wrong.

Either way, he basically has nothing to back up his silly points. The burden of proof now lies on him to either provide better data, or prove his parser is undervaluing all DPS by 30%, and not just the Monk who is pulling lol.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=638 - Here is real objective data for DPS comparisons between a Mage and a Shaman, using a level 49 Sebilis Mob. A Shaman can do 55.2 DPS, a Mage can do 82.7 with damage shield. The difference is only 27.5 DPS. This is a level 60 Mage vs. a level 60 Shaman, no clickies or mana buffs, and assuming the group is killing a mob every 36 seconds.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If You, Troxx, etc. don't vote there won't be a single vote against me

LOL who is "etc"? Just everyone that disagrees with your dumb points? Way more people than me and Troxx have seen the idiocy of what you've said and continue to say here. You're almost making me feel bad now. If you actually believe this you're so much more mentally ill than I was joking about initially.

Also: Only 1 person has halfway agreed with you this entire thread. How many votes you counting on?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL who is "etc"? Just everyone that disagrees with your dumb points? Way more people than me and Troxx have seen the idiocy of what you've said and continue to say here. You're almost making me feel bad now. If you actually believe this you're so much more mentally ill than I was joking about initially.

You know who etc. are. It's pretty obvious. They are the people posting memes and throwing out insults instead of having a civil conversation. I am sorry you are just an asshole. Anyone curious can see the obvious trolls in the last 10 pages[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] If you respectfully disagree with me, there is no need to keep posting nonsense. Just stop and move on.

For the people who want to learn, this is the current data:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Here is Troxx's data for reference. It is using his own standards of being in a group for an extended period of time. He is doing... 79 DPS (without damage shield). It is the precise number I calculated. His DPS is 40 simply because he is nuking more per encounter, but math-wise this also means they aren't pulling mobs that fast. His previous encounter data shows an average kill speed of 36 seconds, and he has yet to provide average kill speed for this data set.

There are two ways you can interpret this data:

1. You can believe Troxx, who is claiming his DPS parser is undervaluing the data by 30%. If that is true, then honestly all of the data he has posted so far is meaningless because his parser is wrong, and he needs to get a better parser.

2. GamParse did it's job and parsed Troxx's DPS correctly. The reason why he thinks the data is undervalued by 30% is because his similarly equipped Monk can do 70 DPS when he isn't pulling. That is where he is getting the 30% number, 70 x 0.7 = 49. The flaw in Troxx's logic is the Monk is only losing 30% DPS because he is pulling, NOT because the parser is wrong. Troxx isn't pulling, he is just sitting in camp DPSing and parsing. He is not losing any DPS, so there is no 30% loss for him. He is basically falsely assuming that if the Monk loses 30% DPS, everybody else is losing 30% DPS too. The parser is correct, and Troxx is wrong.

Either way, he basically has nothing to back up his silly points. The burden of proof now lies on him to either provide better data, or prove his parser is undervaluing all DPS by 30%, and not just the Monk who is pulling lol.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=638 - Here is real objective data for DPS comparisons between a Mage and a Shaman, using a level 49 Sebilis Mob. A Shaman can do 55.2 DPS, a Mage can do 82.7 with damage shield. The difference is only 27.5 DPS. This is a level 60 Mage vs. a level 60 Shaman, no clickies or mana buffs, and assuming the group is killing a mob every 36 seconds.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know who etc. are. It's pretty obvious

Ahh ok. So as I thought "etc" is just an open ended stand in for "anyone that disagrees with me". I guess I should've expected that.