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Old 08-29-2022, 09:53 AM
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g-g-g-g-guys just get your shm to 60 and torpor
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g-g-g-g-guys just get your Mage their Epic so your pet can deal more DPS (lol). Torpor is not difficult to get for anyone who has the time/dedication to get any character to 60. You can get a large portion of the platinum for it if you just kill guards while xping from levels 25-55 hehe. GL farming 800k or more for the Mage Epic.

OP never specified the level range, so you need to include level 60 farming with the group. If all you want to do is play a static group to level 50 and stop, then class combination doesn't matter. Just having 4 players will make that experience fly by. You simply need to decide whether you want a Mage to help you level a bit faster in the low levels, at the cost of them being unnecessary in the end hehe.
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:22 AM
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Whatever your affliction is, DSM: you are worthy of no respect.

The only reason people are posting here anymore is because they know you'll have the nerve to claim a "victory" in your mind when people eventually get exhausted with your pathetic self.

I mean, I don't really agree with teaming up on someone for holding a dissenting view, but when you're this obstinate and arrogant in your views, and people are even asking you to provide objective data and you refuse, then you really deserve no sympathy whatsoever.
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:24 AM
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Whatever your affliction is, DSM: you are worthy of no respect.

The only reason people are posting here anymore is because they know you'll have the nerve to claim a "victory" in your mind when people eventually get exhausted with your pathetic self.

I mean, I don't really agree with teaming up on someone for holding a dissenting view, but when you're this obstinate and arrogant in your views, and people are even asking you to provide objective data and you refuse, then you really deserve no sympathy whatsoever.
Why am I the arrogant one? I posted plenty of objective evidence to support my claims. It just keeps getting lost in the trolling, which is what the trolls want hehe. I would happily accept I am wrong if people can provide counter-evidence. I have done so in the past.

The only arrogance here are the people claiming "I am right and you are wrong because I don't like your objective evidence". That is an astounding level of arrogance. You assume you know better than everyone else, even when actual data proves you wrong[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Somehow your "experience" is just better, so there is need to provide any evidence other than insults and memes.
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:32 AM
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Why am I the arrogant one? I post plenty of evidence to support my claims. The only arrogance here are the people claiming "I am right and you are wrong because I don't like your data". That is an astounding level of arrogance. You assume you know better than everyone else, even when actual data proves you wrong[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Okay then, so do what Troxx asked of you. Parse yourself for an hour as shaman to see how much DPS you can do. Then ask a mage to give a parse in the same scenario. Someone even offered to provide you their classes to test your theory.

You won't test that theory, though, because we all know you're a duplicitous child unable to admit you're wrong.

This isn't a conspiracy against you -- you're just a fool.
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:34 AM
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Okay then, so do what Troxx asked of you. Parse yourself for an hour as shaman to see how much DPS you can do. Then ask a mage to give a parse in the same scenario. Someone even offered to provide you their classes to test your theory.

You won't test that theory, though, because we all know you're a duplicitous child unable to admit you're wrong.

This isn't a conspiracy against you -- you're just a fool.
I do not need to. The data I have provided would be the same in a group. It is exactly the same as the "napkin" math I provided earlier, because it really isn't difficult to math out average DPS in a video game.

It is up to Troxx (or someone else) to provide evidence that the DPS would change in a group setting. That is the current claim to try and invalidate my data, with no proof whatsoever.

It is also up to Troxx to provide evidence that he actually admits is accurate. Currently he claims all of his data is off due to parser error.

I have provided solid evidence that cannot be faked. The ball is in the court of the opposing side to prove my evidence is not accurate in a group setting, and/or Mage DPS is actually higher that what Troxx has provided.
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:42 AM
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I do not need to. The data I have provided would be the same in a group.

It is up to Troxx (or someone else) to provide evidence that the DPS would change in a group setting. That is the current claim to try and invalidate my data, with no proof whatsoever.

It is also up to Troxx to provide evidence that he actually admits is accurate. Currently he claims all of his data is off due to parser error.
1: The parser isn't broken. Everyone knows when you combine fights your overall DPS numbers get skewed. Enough of this nonsense. There isn't a bug in the parser it's working just fine.

2: Your data is extremely flawed. Soloing a mob then pretending you'd do the same numbers in a fast killing chain pulling group is fucking absurd and that's why everyone is dismissing your "data". If you want to test something in a specific scenario you can't test a different scenario and claim it's the same thing. I know you aren't the sharpest crayon in the box but I think even you can understand that's not how you test things if you want real results.

3: I didn't even say autism in this one
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1: Mage is a better group DPS class than Shaman
2: Enchanters solo better than Warriors

These statements are not up for debate amongst sane human beings
Why does <Vanquish> allow DSM to be a member?
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:43 AM
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1: The parser isn't broken. Everyone knows when you combine fights your overall DPS numbers get skewed. Enough of this nonsense. There isn't a bug in the parser it's working just fine.

2: Your data is extremely flawed. Soloing a mob then pretending you'd do the same numbers in a fast killing chain pulling group is fucking absurd and that's why everyone is dismissing your "data". If you want to test something in a specific scenario you can't test a different scenario and claim it's the same thing. I know you aren't the sharpest crayon in the box but I think even you can understand that's not how you test things if you want real results.
"Everybody knows" isn't an argument, it is a fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum . If you claim there isn't a bug in the parser, then the numbers are accurate lol, no skewing involved. By your own admission, Mage average DPS is 80, and it matches the average DPS you get when you simply math it out.

Please prove my data is "extremely flawed". Being in a group doesn't change a Mobs stats. A Mage could even do the same test that I provided if they want. We have no way to know how Troxx even got his parse data, due to it just being a screenshot.

The ball is still in your court lol.

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By all means, keep telling yourself that. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone is believing this now.
Your beliefs are irrelevant to the truth. The truth is you have no evidence to counter mine, or back up your propositions.
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