Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Keebz]

Answer this question:

In what context is root rotting low 40's mobs a productive or interesting thing for 4 level 60 casters to be doing?

It's a trick question. There is not such a context.

[Troxx]

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What a fucking tool …

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Answer this question:

In what context is root rotting low 40's mobs a productive or interesting thing for 4 level 60 casters to be doing?

It's a trick question. There is not such a context.

Exactly! Now you are gettng it after 100 pages lol. This entire thread people kept claiming they want a Mage because their group is chain pulling mobs they can kill in 30 seconds.

Level 60s aren't gong to be doing that, and Shaman is better at camps like Ixiblat Fer and Fungi King because 30 DPS is irrelevant. You want better safety to secure the kill so your group doesn't wipe and lose the camp.

Level 60s aren't going to be chain pulling anything unless they are just topping off XP. Then you can root/rot because the mobs are indeed basically easy level 49 mobs lol.

It only took 100 pages for you to realize the chain pulling argument was silly[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] It was the entire crux of arguing for a Mage.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am maintaining civility in this discussion, and my position is founded on hard evidence. The only insults I throw are thrown in defense.

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, you have not maintained civility in this discussion.

I have maintained civility in my posts to you - in which I have ONLY stated facts and asked questions - and despite my civility you have (repeatedly) called me a troll, called me silly, accused me of doing/posting things I have not done/posted, and meanwhile have continued to ignore my simple questions and avoided responding to the many facts I've stated. I present both of our posts - from this thread and elsewhere - as evidence of my civility, and you have provided no counterevidence despite me requesting you provide it (multiple times).

Why do you opt out of partaking in a civil discussion with me, and meanwhile claim that you are maintaining civility in this discussion (yet choose to continue to call me names for [seemingly] no reason)?


Why do you feel the need to "defend yourself" from any of the facts I have stated or questions I have asked?

[Vexenu]

I'm wondering how much of DSM's stunning obstinacy in this thread is just him looking at this question differently. His stubborn insistence on including the Shaman could be justified if you interpret "best four man all caster group" to mean "pick four level 60 casters who can reliably and safely kill the most high value mobs". Under that interpretation I think there is a fair case to throw in a Shaman.

But I, and I think most others as well, have interpreted best four man caster group to mean "pick four casters to level 1-60 as quickly and effectively as possible while also maintaining maximum kill potential at endgame". It's a much broader definition, and because the Shaman relies so heavily on Torpor which doesn't come until 60 (and at great expense) it's impossible to justify including a Shaman in such a group for that reason alone. The mage or necro win out easily.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm wondering how much of DSM's stunning obstinacy in this thread is just him looking at this question differently. His stubborn insistence on including the Shaman could be justified if you interpret "best four man all caster group" to mean "pick four level 60 casters who can reliably and safely kill the most high value mobs". Under that interpretation I think there is a fair case to throw in a Shaman.

But I, and I think most others as well, have interpreted best four man caster group to mean "pick four casters to level 1-60 as quickly and effectively as possible while also maintaining maximum kill potential at endgame". It's a much broader definition, and because the Shaman relies so heavily on Torpor which doesn't come until 60 (and at great expense) it's impossible to justify including a Shaman in such a group for that reason alone. The mage or necro win out easily.

Um, I have said multiple times in this thread I am looking at the entire playtime, including level 60 item farming. Remember, OP didn't add any specifiers such as "fastest leveling group".

As I keep saying, a 4 man caster group is going to level extremely fast, with or without a Mage. It is up to your group to decide whether you want to level a bit faster with a Mage, at the cost of the Mage basically being unecessary at the end.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am maintaining civility in this discussion, and my position is founded on hard evidence. The only insults I throw are thrown in defense.

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, you have not maintained civility in this discussion.

I have maintained civility in my posts to you - in which I have ONLY stated facts and asked questions - and despite my civility you have (repeatedly) called me a troll, called me silly, accused me of doing/posting things I have not done/posted, and meanwhile have continued to ignore my simple questions and avoided responding to the many facts I've stated. I present both of our posts - from this thread and elsewhere - as evidence of my civility, and you have provided no counterevidence despite me requesting you provide it (multiple times).

Why do you opt out of partaking in a civil discussion with me, and meanwhile claim that you are maintaining civility in this discussion (yet choose to continue to call me names for [seemingly] no reason)?


Why do you feel the need to "defend yourself" from any of the facts I have stated or questions I have asked?

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mage basically being unecessary at the end.

Yeah 50% more DPS is really unnecessary and useless. Sorry about your delusion and the fact that mages do a lot more damage than your shaman. Take it up with Brad. Nobody here can help you.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah 50% more DPS is really unnecessary and useless. Sorry about your delusion and the fact that mages do a lot more damage than your shaman. Take it up with Brad. Nobody here can help you.

You already admitted groups aren't gong to be chain pulling mobs at 60, which was the entire argument for Mages[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Nobody cares about 30 DPS when doing level 60 item farming like Fungi King.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am maintaining civility in this discussion, and my position is founded on hard evidence. The only insults I throw are thrown in defense.

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, you have not maintained civility in this discussion.

I have maintained civility in my posts to you - in which I have ONLY stated facts and asked questions - and despite my civility you have (repeatedly) called me a troll, called me silly, accused me of doing/posting things I have not done/posted, and meanwhile have continued to ignore my simple questions and avoided responding to the many facts I've stated. I present both of our posts - from this thread and elsewhere - as evidence of my civility, and you have provided no counterevidence despite me requesting you provide it (multiple times).

Why do you opt out of partaking in a civil discussion with me, and meanwhile claim that you are maintaining civility in this discussion (yet choose to continue to call me names for [seemingly] no reason)?


Why do you feel the need to "defend yourself" from any of the facts I have stated or questions I have asked?