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Old 09-03-2022, 03:50 PM
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Mage does 50% more dps than shaman by your own data. Shaman utility is largely useless in a group with 2 encs and a cleric. Shaman does less damage than mage and brings nothing else that really matters to the table. Math/Logic/Data all pointing to Mage > Shaman. Yet you have 550+ posts saying the opposite.

Riddle me this fuckhead: How do you suggest we provide "evidence" that will change your mind? Far as I'm concerned the evidence is already clear as day and you just bold face stare at it and go "Nope wrong cuz shaman boner".
I have explained why Shaman is greater than a Mage, and why 20-30 DPS isn't going to affect your group in any meaningful way. During the leveling process 4 casters are already going to be leveling fast, and at level 60 Shamans open up more camps than a Mage.

As to what evidence I am looking for, there are a number of things you could provide.

First would be DPS data showing a Mage doing a lot more DPS on average than what the current data shows. If this discussion was not limited to Casters/Priests, a Rogue would be tempting, since they can do something like 133 DPS on average with Epic and a good offhand. That is 50 more DPS than a Mage and 80 more DPS than a Shaman. That is basically a safer Enchanter pet. You still would lose Malo support, but at least then you could probably start saving enough time on kills to wipe once an hour and still come out on top.

The other evidence you could provide is showing a level 60 Mage contributing more to high level camps than a Shaman by using DPS rather than Utility. Typically you would only pick a Mage over a Shaman if you need CoTH.
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