Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Considering the duration of Bane of Nife a 42 second burn followed by 18 seconds down time to spam canny / torpor (with no other mobs in camp for pets to attrition on in that time) looks like the perfect storm for shaman burst dps but it still compares unfavourably to magician.

We’re using data from Seb/KC, right? What is the scenario the 42 second burn with no other mobs in camp meant to be modelling?

The pro Mage side for 300 pages now has been trying to constrain the discussion to a vary narrow scope to paint Mages in the best light possible:

A group of four level 60's is chain pulling trash mobs one at a time (in this case high 40's Sebilis mobs with around 8000 HP). Additionally, they are saying the Shaman cannot root/rot trash mobs that Shamans could normally solo and root rot. I have no idea why, since this would increase DPS with no additional risk.

I have been humoring them by providing data and maths for this specific scenario to strong man their arguments.

I personally think this is strange, because a group of four level 60's it typically not going to just be chain pulling trash mobs. They will be doing money camps like Fungi King, Ixiblat Fer, Chardok, etc. In those situations You are 100% correct a Shaman's DPS will be better due to them being able to use DoTs fully.

DoT DPS is still not as good as a Mage when talking about single targets, but the math shows the difference in DPS isn't really giving you anything even when looking at a Shaman's worst possible DPS. You have already reached the proper DPS breakpoints with an Enchanter/Enchanter/Cleric/Shaman group. That is the group composition most commonly being discussed, which is being compared to Enchanter/Enchanter/Cleric/Mage.