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Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well that’s what the DOJ is preparing to potentially indict him for after the midterms. Especially now that it’s been proven he tried to say he’d give back classified documents if the FBI gave him records of who testified to them during the Russia probe.

So yeah he mishandled documents.

At any rate, as a fellow republican you really need to abandon this guy. I used to spend a good amount of time with him personally, he doesn’t give a shit about you or the party. All he does is in his own self interest. It’s okay to admit that we made a mistake by electing him…it doesn’t mean the liberals “won” or something like that. We learned our lesson and it’s time to move on to much better candidates if we want the GOP to have a successful future

Since you're a lawyer and all.

Is being indicted proof of guilt?

I wasn't aware of that.

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Originally Posted by Encroaching Death [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since you're a lawyer and all.

Is being indicted proof of guilt?

I wasn't aware of that.

An indictment is an acknowledgment that the prosecution has enough evidence that a crime was committed.

You then go through the formal trial process for the actual conviction. In general, for most crimes the vast majority of people who get indicted get convicted (I think it's something like over 90%) if they go to trial (there are some crimes where you might see a bit lower rate, like maybe a murder trial where the defense has enough to just barely create reasonable doubt because there are so many wrinkles in those cases).

What realistically should happen (at least if Trump is smart (debatable) or has good lawyers (he doesn't anymore because people don't want to take his cases)) is he gets indicted and then agrees to some sort of plea deal where he becomes a convicted felon but doesn't do jail time (or something along those lines).

But yeah the indictment process is generally a pretty clear indicator of guilt. One of the whole points of the grand jury/indictment process is to help alleviate court dockets from cases where there's limited evidence...the idea being if you have enough evidence to get past the grand jury then you'll likely have enough evidence to convict at trial.

At any rate, cope harder man. Your boy was a moron and tried to keep confidential top secret documents for himself to leverage or sell and got caught. And in typical Trump fashion when he could have stepped up and just been like "oh I apologize that was totally a mistake I didn't even realize I had them" he instead whined and tried to fight it because he's a 5 year old who can't admit when he was wrong.

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Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

An indictment is an acknowledgment that the prosecution has enough evidence that a crime was committed.

You then go through the formal trial process for the actual conviction. In general, for most crimes the vast majority of people who get indicted get convicted (I think it's something like over 90%) if they go to trial (there are some crimes where you might see a bit lower rate, like maybe a murder trial where the defense has enough to just barely create reasonable doubt because there are so many wrinkles in those cases).

What realistically should happen (at least if Trump is smart (debatable) or has good lawyers (he doesn't anymore because people don't want to take his cases)) is he gets indicted and then agrees to some sort of plea deal where he becomes a convicted felon but doesn't do jail time (or something along those lines).

But yeah the indictment process is generally a pretty clear indicator of guilt. One of the whole points of the grand jury/indictment process is to help alleviate court dockets from cases where there's limited evidence...the idea being if you have enough evidence to get past the grand jury then you'll likely have enough evidence to convict at trial.

At any rate, cope harder man. Your boy was a moron and tried to keep confidential top secret documents for himself to leverage or sell and got caught. And in typical Trump fashion when he could have stepped up and just been like "oh I apologize that was totally a mistake I didn't even realize I had them" he instead whined and tried to fight it because he's a 5 year old who can't admit when he was wrong.

Question: Is an indictment PROOF of guilt?

Yes or No?

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Originally Posted by Encroaching Death [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Question: Is an indictment PROOF of guilt?

Yes or No?

Statistically speaking? yes lol

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Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Statistically speaking? yes lol

No, it isn't.

You should be disbarred.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Encroaching Death [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it isn't.

You should be disbarred.

In the vast vast majority of cases if you get indicted you end up convicted. Have you every been on a grand jury before? Do you know how it works? Put very basically, in order to get indicted you have to prove that you have enough evidence to get a conviction at trial...this is why a lot of people end up pleading to something post-indictment because you're almost certain to be convicted.

So, if you get indicted, then statistically speaking yes you are probably guilty.

It's alright though man. He will go down and you and I and the GOP can move on to stronger, more productive candidates and we'll have a brighter future. Our party will survive this guy.

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Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In the vast vast majority of cases if you get indicted you end up convicted. Have you every been on a grand jury before? Do you know how it works? Put very basically, in order to get indicted you have to prove that you have enough evidence to get a conviction at trial...this is why a lot of people end up pleading to something post-indictment because you're almost certain to be convicted.

So, if you get indicted, then statistically speaking yes you are probably guilty.

It's alright though man. He will go down and you and I and the GOP can move on to stronger, more productive candidates and we'll have a brighter future. Our party will survive this guy.

I'm not talking about statistics.

I'm talking about fundamentally.

So if a cop arrests you, that means you are guilty of wrongdoing?

What kind of lawyer are you?