"Spyware" dll in P99's patch files.

[Wiltan]

I'm not going to speak to the legalities of having software that "spies" for potential cheat applications that may or may not have more insight into what else you do on your computer, because that varies by state/country. Nor am I going to speak to the ethics of using a tool to watch for cheating that has potential to see more than just that, because obviously most of us have made our peace with that ages ago.

What I will say is that there are hundreds of people on each of two servers (and tens of people on a third) at any given time, so probably thousands of active users overall. P99 is a volunteer-run organization with limited resources and only a handful of active staff, so it is extremely unrealistic that they have the human bandwidth nor infrastructure to monitor what everyone is doing on their computers outside of flagging the hashes of certain apps (as someone else explained already very nicely). It would take at least hundreds of people to watch what everyone is doing on their computers. It would take petabytes of storage to even list the titles all the open windows on everyone's computers on every minute they're playing. In short, even if this massive invasion of privacy you're worried about is possible from a technical standpoint, it's not realistically possible from a resource standpoint.

As for warning you about this, it's at least somewhat covered here in
https://wiki.project1999.com/Players...rd-Party_Tools - specifically "Use of any third-party programs will be detected and will result in the permanent banning of your account(s)."

They've warned you they're detecting stuff on your computer.

Since you insist that's all you're asking them to do, asked and answered.

[Calmethar]

Originally Posted by Wiltan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not going to speak to the legalities of having software that "spies" for potential cheat applications that may or may not have more insight into what else you do on your computer, because that varies by state/country. Nor am I going to speak to the ethics of using a tool to watch for cheating that has potential to see more than just that, because obviously most of us have made our peace with that ages ago.

What I will say is that there are hundreds of people on each of two servers (and tens of people on a third) at any given time, so probably thousands of active users overall. P99 is a volunteer-run organization with limited resources and only a handful of active staff, so it is extremely unrealistic that they have the human bandwidth nor infrastructure to monitor what everyone is doing on their computers outside of flagging the hashes of certain apps (as someone else explained already very nicely). It would take at least hundreds of people to watch what everyone is doing on their computers. It would take petabytes of storage to even list the titles all the open windows on everyone's computers on every minute they're playing. In short, even if this massive invasion of privacy you're worried about is possible from a technical standpoint, it's not realistically possible from a resource standpoint.

As for warning you about this, it's at least somewhat covered here in
https://wiki.project1999.com/Players...rd-Party_Tools - specifically "Use of any third-party programs will be detected and will result in the permanent banning of your account(s)."

They've warned you they're detecting stuff on your computer.

Since you insist that's all you're asking them to do, asked and answered.

Oh, them trolls ;-)

"The wiki is player maintained, and not supported by the Project 1999 Staff."

[Wiltan]

Originally Posted by Calmethar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"The wiki is player maintained, and not supported by the Project 1999 Staff."

Sure, but it's quoting a direct post from Llandris speaking on behalf of the P99 staff.

[Calmethar]

Originally Posted by Wiltan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You get that you're the troll, right?

Now you're being funny ;-)

Originally Posted by Wiltan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure, but it's quoting a direct post from Llandris speaking on behalf of the P99 staff.

A long "Play Nice Policy"-post that only 1 % read is not what's in question here. It's why players are not informed directly about the intrusiveness straight off the bat, or even better, an "agreement" from the players before they even download these so-called "patch files". Why try to hide it. Informed players would only lead to fewer rule-violations.


"Looking for the latest Patch Files ? Along with our anti-cheat-obfuscation-technologies allowing us to monitor you ? Get them here: Project 1999 Patch Files (V56)."

"Once you have completed installation you will need to extract the Project 1999 required game file changes along with our anti-cheat-obfuscation-technologies allowing us to monitor you. The current distribution is Project 1999 Files (V56).
These files must overwrite any existing files encountered during extraction into your Titanium directory."

There you go, all ready to go ;-)