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Old 05-31-2023, 03:42 PM
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Also Newsweek - no bio labs

And.... LOL..... They cite SNOPES as a source in their articles about that?! Hahaha omfg

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Honest question, if Ukraine manages to fully push Russia out of its territory, how would you respond to that?

Like, what's the endgame you want here?
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Old 05-31-2023, 04:52 PM
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Honest question, if Ukraine manages to fully push Russia out of its territory, how would you respond to that?

Like, what's the endgame you want here?
You Botton, Diziet. So many others. This is rotten work, but it has to be done. It's like volunteering to become a temp worker at a slaughtterhouse in the 1920's so you can at least create a document trail.

No endgame. Autoflush moves to next talking point is endgame. Agit-prop -- yes, this is supposed to be sowing "confusion" lol -- is simply meant to create a volatile enrgy which then ... profit?

So these political underpants gnomes just do this, year after year, topic after topic, panic after panic, idiot wave after idiot wave. They die, others replace them. Soon no one remembers their name because this is not about memory. This is about riding the wave of whatever is stupid at a particular moment in time. They fire up the reactors.

Reactionaries are befuddled people. They assume everyone panicked, angry, outraged, etc.

But a reactionary is a very specific kind of person. Like people who grow orchids or who memorize box scores. So, they end up in this gigantic mess, decade after decade after decade.

I like to watch.
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Old 05-31-2023, 09:13 PM
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Honest question, if Ukraine manages to fully push Russia out of its territory, how would you respond to that?

Like, what's the endgame you want here?
I just don't see that happening

Russia is not fighting a conventional war like people in the West perceive them to be

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Old 05-31-2023, 09:30 PM
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Russia is not fighting a conventional war like people in the West perceive them to be
You're correct about that

like 99.999% of people in the entire world don't fully understand the motivations behind their war in ukraine.

it actually is super duper complicated and requires alot of research into non-biased sources which are rare and hard to find

any "media source" just wants to polarize everyone on the subject for clicks and votes
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Old 05-31-2023, 10:46 PM
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I just don't see that happening

Russia is not fighting a conventional war like people in the West perceive them to be

hth
Probably not. Still, Russia getting set back a decade with a couple million military age males gone is good for the home team, especially since they started it, are in the wrong 100%, and are now receiving divine punishment
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Old 05-31-2023, 11:11 PM
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are in the wrong 100%,
are they though?

im not saying they are, but might ultimately does make right

when you look at the world through the eyes of the russian, the muscovite, the viking/cossack hybrid, you see it very differently from anyone born anywhere else in the world

you see imperialists squabbling over resources, you see financial titans all vieing for a larger piece of the pie, you see wars waged for no other reason than to prop up sections of western economies. you know you wanna do your own thing, and not play their games the way they want to play them.

you look at your own history, having been invaded ~50 times. you look at the territories around you, which you owned for alot more of history, than you did not own them.

you see global temps creeping up slightly, you know that means some regions will become uninhabitable in a century, you also know that regions too cold to inhabit now, will become prime real estate. you know that when the permafrost thaws, and artic trade routes are reliable, you gain access to trillions in untapped resources. you know that wars are fought for these reasons.

you stand in st petersburg, or moscow, or novosibirsk, and you look outward. you aren't a westerner or asian or middle easterner or african or south american.

you're descendent of a tribe all your own, and you're looking at the world through those eyes.

and you're thinking, "what do I have in 10 years, 100 years"

justification or not, you never go to war fighting the war you want to fight, you go to war to fight the war that you think you have to fight.

IMO Russia is taking a page from the chinese playbook, don't plan for the next year or decade, plan for the century.

Planet Earth has never faced a team of russia and china before, together this is a team of vast resources and steadfast resolve.
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Old 06-01-2023, 09:36 AM
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are they though?

im not saying they are, but might ultimately does make right

when you look at the world through the eyes of the russian, the muscovite, the viking/cossack hybrid, you see it very differently from anyone born anywhere else in the world
Yeah while squatting in your bootleg Adidas gear.

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Old 06-01-2023, 10:48 AM
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Old 06-01-2023, 10:54 AM
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are they though?

im not saying they are, but might ultimately does make right

when you look at the world through the eyes of the russian, the muscovite, the viking/cossack hybrid, you see it very differently from anyone born anywhere else in the world

you see imperialists squabbling over resources, you see financial titans all vieing for a larger piece of the pie, you see wars waged for no other reason than to prop up sections of western economies. you know you wanna do your own thing, and not play their games the way they want to play them.

you look at your own history, having been invaded ~50 times. you look at the territories around you, which you owned for alot more of history, than you did not own them.

you see global temps creeping up slightly, you know that means some regions will become uninhabitable in a century, you also know that regions too cold to inhabit now, will become prime real estate. you know that when the permafrost thaws, and artic trade routes are reliable, you gain access to trillions in untapped resources. you know that wars are fought for these reasons.

you stand in st petersburg, or moscow, or novosibirsk, and you look outward. you aren't a westerner or asian or middle easterner or african or south american.

you're descendent of a tribe all your own, and you're looking at the world through those eyes.

and you're thinking, "what do I have in 10 years, 100 years"

justification or not, you never go to war fighting the war you want to fight, you go to war to fight the war that you think you have to fight.

IMO Russia is taking a page from the chinese playbook, don't plan for the next year or decade, plan for the century.

Planet Earth has never faced a team of russia and china before, together this is a team of vast resources and steadfast resolve.
If they had a plan, they would’ve joined NATO so as to not be consumed by China. Russia is a vassal now, they could’ve been not a shit hole and not reconquered by the Yuan dynasty. Instead, they chose Lucifer and the penalty will be eternal servitude to people who shit in the streets
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Old 06-01-2023, 10:57 AM
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Russia will be lucky to hold their Muslim territories and Iran will be lucky to hold Azerbaijan. It’s amazing how self proclaimed nationalists can ignore reality

Not that we don’t do it, but Russia has no birthrate and they’re giving chechens combat experience. Genius!
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