Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't record any of those sessions, so it is up to you whether you believe me or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gdAIheodtY - This is what it looks like for a Shaman to root rot in Velks. You can see it is safe, and wouldn't affect a nearby group. You don't see any evidence of bad pathing, heavy resists, trains, etc.

There would be no difference between this video solo and grouped, the group would simply be in a nearby part of the zone.

You are going to claim my evidence isn't valid, but I do have evidence. Unfortunately you cannot just simply claim every piece of evidence someone provides is invalid. That isn't an argument.

I am not particularly interested in beliefs and you have already shared your beliefs many times in your 1,300+ posts in this thread.

That video you linked is definitely 100% valid evidence of SOLO Root Rotting and naturally Shaman can Root Rot mobs easily (esp. ones that don't summon). It's the doing that while being part of a 4 person priest/caster group containing 2 Encs using Charmed pets & being beneficial / more beneficial than a Mage w/non-Epic pet that I have hard time accepting. You would need to have access to the additional mobs/such mobs have to exist, you'd have to kill the additional mobs while within range of your groupmates in order for them to get experience. This doesn't even mention that MORE mobs have to be available for you to continue to pull 3-6 more of them, and where are those mobs coming from? Is the group pulling/crawling in a direction that ALLOWS you to continue to pull additional mobs and stay in range? This, additionally, is all assuming you are able to handle the mobs without any devastating root breaks, summons, etc. A simple video - provided by you - actually doing this in the relevant environment could settle/answer all of these questions & help lay the issue to rest.

Since your gameplay in that video was SOLO & specifically not in a group in the specific scenario where your Root Rotting is benefitting said group because your Root Rotting is achieving additional kills / experience for the group like you claimed it would/could/does, it is objectively IRRELEVANT evidence, which WOULD/COULD be relevant, if you were simply in a group & improving their DPS via your Root Rotting like your tens? hundreds? of posts fervently claimed it did/does/would/could.

It really wouldn't be hard to prove your group is getting experience from your Root Rotting kills in such a group, as you should in turn be receiving experience from their 2 Enc Pet blender. I don't see the point in your reluctance to comply honestly. If you truly do this Root Rotting method/tactic parallel to the group and - as is obvious - you enjoy recording your gameplay & sharing videos, it seems like you would just simply provide the evidence even if it were just to shut your opposition up lol.

Also, if you DON'T actually do this in groups & were just saying that Shaman the CLASS is theoretically CAPABLE of doing that, where a Mage is not, it would also be fine to just clarify that & I doubt anybody is going to think less of you for it. (I wouldn't.)

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see the point in your reluctance to comply honestly. If you truly do this Root Rotting method/tactic parallel to the group and - as is obvious - you enjoy recording your gameplay & sharing videos, it seems like you would just simply provide the evidence even if it were just to shut your opposition up lol.

You have made it clear you will not accept any evidence I have provided or will provide. It's far too late to try and deny it or cover it. You are just going to make an excuse for why my video doesn't work, and make me record another video. This is an "appeal to ignorance". You will not admit you are wrong or provide counter evidence, you will simply keep asking me to prove my evidence is valid. You are always shifting the burden of proof away from yourself.

That is not fair to me, as it does take time and energy to make these videos.

If you feel my evidence is invalid, you need to provide counter evidence. For example, show a video of root rotting going wrong and wiping a group. Then we can analyze it and see if the issue is due to root rotting, skill, high mob resists, etc.

If I am so obviously wrong, it should be equally trivial for any of my detractors to provide counter evidence. So far not one video showing I am wrong has been posted in 436 pages.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have made it clear you will not accept any evidence provided.

How can you make such a statement in good conscience/faith when the only evidence you have provided thus far has been objectively irrelevant?

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's far too late to try and deny it or cover it.

How so? Cover for what?

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are just going to make an excuse for why my video doesn't work, and make me record another video.

You have no example of my reaction to RELEVANT evidence provided by yourself because you haven't ever provided it to begin with - so your above Quoted assumption is baseless (and also incorrect).

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is an "argument from ignorance". You will not admit you are wrong or provide counter evidence, you will simply keep asking me to prove my evidence is valid. You are always shifting the burden of proof away from yourself.

I told you - the evidence you provided most recently was VALID, just not relevant. It is up to you to provide relevant evidence to support your claims. The specific burden of proof to prove your claim that Shaman can Root Rot multiple mobs parallel to the group (providing a benefit to the group, and/or more of a benefit than a non-Epic pet Mage) has been solely yours for almost a year.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is not fair to me, as it does take time and energy to make these videos.

Sorry, life is not fair. It also takes others' time to review the evidence you've provided & confirm that it is not relevant/does not prove/validate/justify your previous claim made over tens? hundreds? of posts claiming that Shaman can Root Rot multiple mobs parallel to the group (providing a benefit to the group, and/or more of a benefit than a non-Epic pet Mage).

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you feel my evidence is invalid, you need to provide counter evidence. For example, show a video of root rotting going wrong and wiping a group. Then we can analyze it and see if the issue is due to root rotting, skill, high mob resists, etc.

I need only point out the irrefutable fact that the evidence you have provided contains zero evidence of your Shaman Root Rotting multiple mobs parallel to the group and thereby providing a benefit to the group, and/or more of a benefit than a non-Epic pet Mage.

Again, to be clear: the specific burden of proof to prove your claim that Shaman can Root Rot multiple mobs parallel to the group (providing a benefit to the group, and/or more of a benefit than a non-Epic pet Mage) has been solely yours for almost a year.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How can you make such a statement in good conscience/faith when the only evidence you have provided thus far has been objectively irrelevant?



How so? Cover for what?



You have no example of my reaction to relevant evidence provided by yourself because you haven't ever provided it to begin with - so your above Quoted assumption is baseless (and also incorrect).



I told you - the evidence you provided most recently was VALID, just not relevant. It is up to you to provide relevant evidence to support your claims. The specific burden of proof to prove your claim that Shaman can Root Rot multiple mobs parallel to the group (providing a benefit to the group, and/or more of a benefit than a non-Epic pet Mage) has been solely yours for almost a year.



Sorry, life is not fair. It also takes others' time to review the evidence you've provided & confirm that it is not relevant/does not prove/validate/justify your previous claim made over tens? hundreds? of posts claiming that Shaman can Root Rot multiple mobs parallel to the group (providing a benefit to the group, and/or more of a benefit than a non-Epic pet Mage).



I need only point out the irrefutable fact that the evidence you have provided contains zero evidence of your Shaman Root Rotting multiple mobs parallel to the group and thereby providing a benefit to the group, and/or more of a benefit than a non-Epic pet Mage.

Again, to be clear: the specific burden of proof to prove your claim that Shaman can Root Rot multiple mobs parallel to the group (providing a benefit to the group, and/or more of a benefit than a non-Epic pet Mage) has been solely yours for almost a year.

Thank you for proving my point. Let me know when you want to provide some counter evidence. Simply claiming another person's evidence is not relevant is... not relevant[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I'll talk to you again when you have provided some counter evidence.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thank you for proving my point. Let me know when you want to provide some counter evidence. Simply claiming another person's evidence is not relevant is... not relevant[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The above Quote is simply your opinion that "claiming another person's evidence is not relevant is not relevant" - which is simply your opinion, and does not change the objective facts.

I will remind you of those objective facts - which I just posted a few seconds ago, and which you did not acknowledge/argue/challenge/defend/attempt to refute - again:

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I told you - the evidence you provided most recently was VALID, just not relevant. It is up to you to provide relevant evidence to support your claims. The specific burden of proof to prove your claim that Shaman can Root Rot multiple mobs parallel to the group (providing a benefit to the group, and/or more of a benefit than a non-Epic pet Mage) has been solely yours for almost a year.

Sorry, life is not fair. It also takes others' time to review the evidence you've provided & confirm that it is not relevant/does not prove/validate/justify your previous claim made over tens? hundreds? of posts claiming that Shaman can Root Rot multiple mobs parallel to the group (providing a benefit to the group, and/or more of a benefit than a non-Epic pet Mage).

I need only point out the irrefutable fact that the evidence you have provided contains zero evidence of your Shaman Root Rotting multiple mobs parallel to the group and thereby providing a benefit to the group, and/or more of a benefit than a non-Epic pet Mage.

Again, to be clear: the specific burden of proof to prove your claim that Shaman can Root Rot multiple mobs parallel to the group (providing a benefit to the group, and/or more of a benefit than a non-Epic pet Mage) has been solely yours for almost a year.

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