Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For that specifically, I will let your own words speak for themselves:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...78&postcount=6

Your desperation is pathetic. That was a thread about how a solo enchanter goes about getting rezzes.

In a 4 man group, you would just have the cleric with you at all times.

Nice try though, deathsstrawman.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your desperation is pathetic. That was a thread about how a solo enchanter goes about getting rezzes.

In a 4 man group, you would just have the cleric with you at all times.

Nice try though, deathsstrawman.

Ah, so people can only have pocket clerics when they are solo Enchanters? Got it[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] /sarcasm

I am not sure why you think people can't have pocket clerics in other scenarios. It's a stretch.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah, so people can only have pocket clerics when they are solo Enchanters? Got it[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] /sarcasm

I am not sure why you think people can't have pocket clerics in other scenarios. It's a stretch.

OP didn’t specify having pocket chars. And even if he did, that just blows the discussion wide open. I’d still take the cleric for their superior utility over a shaman, and if I really needed malo I could just log a pocket mage for mala which is nearly just as good. A cleric/enc/enc/wiz group could PL a mage in no time.

You simply don’t understand group/raid dynamics if you think a shaman brings more to the table than a cleric does. Solo rank != duo rank != trio rank != 4 man rank != 5 man rank != 6 man rank != raid rank.

Edit: even your beloved monks have moved onto clerics when velious geared. Monk/cleric is just safer in most situations Vs relying on slow/torpor as higher tier mobs get harder to slow.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP didn’t specify having pocket chars. And even if he did, that just blows the discussion wide open. I’d still take the cleric for their superior utility over a shaman, and if I really needed malo I could just log a pocket mage for mala which is nearly just as good. A cleric/enc/enc/wiz group could PL a mage in no time.

You simply don’t understand group/raid dynamics if you think a shaman brings more to the table than a cleric does. Solo rank != duo rank != trio rank != 4 man rank != 5 man rank != 6 man rank != raid rank.

OP didn't explicitly ban pocket characters either, so I am not sure what your point is.

I am not sure why you are bringing raid dynamics into a group of 4 people without a Warrior for a tank.

For group dynamics I understand them just fine. It is why Shaman/Enchanter/Monk is such a strong trio. I am sorry you simply don't understand why this is a strong trio.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP didn't explicitly ban pocket characters either, so I am not sure what your point is.

I am not sure why you are bringing raid dynamics into a group of 4 people without a Warrior for a tank.

For group dynamics I understand them just fine. It is why Shaman/Enchanter/Monk is such a strong trio. I am sorry you simply don't understand why this is a strong trio.

I am not sure why you’re bringing in monks when this is a caster discussion.

It’s not a matter of “strong”. The thread is about “best”.

It’s really that simple

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not sure why you’re bringing in monks when this is a caster discussion.

It’s not a matter of “strong”. The thread is about “best”.

It’s really that simple

Agreed. So far, you haven't shown any evidence as to why the Cleric is bringing more than the Shaman in a group of four 60s without a Warrior, when OP didn't specify that you cannot have pocket Clerics for reses.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed. So far, you haven't shown any evidence as to why the Cleric is bringing more than the Shaman in a group of 60s without a Warrior, when OP didn't specify that you cannot have pocket Clerics for reses.

You’re focusing too much on rez. That’s just the cherry on top.

Clerics just synergieze better with enchanters. Better overall spellbook in this situation. Shaman is more geared to niche drawn out solo battles.

It’s not uncommon for people to run multiple clerics too. You could have a cleric in your main group and just have a pocket one parked in case you do wipe.