sk starting points

[Troxx]

Jimjam, the joke went completely over his head. Individuals with autism tend to take things quite literally.

(I appreciated the joke fwiw)

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jimjam, the joke went completely over his head. Individuals with autism tend to take things quite literally.

(I appreciated the joke fwiw)

Maybe it's not that he's autistic, but rather just an attention seeking manchild who wants to be the cleverest and coolest person in the room?

He basically exposes himself when he says ridiculous things like "I do not ignore people because they can redeem themselves". That's not autism -- that's just arrogant and pathetic.

But you're right to mock him, though. He needs a serious wakeup call.

[Toxigen]

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[Crede]

I actually did an ogre sk twink build once and put points into str. It was a glorious feeling capping strength naturally. I wasn’t just oozing with strength either I barely hit the cap but gave me the flexibility to prioritize other stats at that point.

People really need to know capping str without buffs is no cakewalk until you really start getting seriously geared. My troll has some casual raid gear and still only about 220 strength unbuffed.

It really is the greatest starting stat.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now i’m confused. Were you not being sarcastic or facetious when you brought up +60 strength ogres as a choice in a greenmist thread? Throwing away 60 str in an ambition to have a green mist isn’t the same as swapping 20 str for int/sta. we seem to agree the ogre’s 60 str isn’t an option so not a consideration for green mist. 20 int/str/sta is an option and is literally the crux of the thread.

You may as well have pointed out that yes, sk can greenmist, but op would have torpor with shaman. It is so off topic it comes across as a joke (which I was trying to lean in to, sorry if you weren’t joking about weighting up ogre in the greenmist thread).

Why would you assume sarcasm in text without cause? I was not being sarcastic, nor was there anything to indicate that I was. If I was being sarcastic, I would say /sarcasm, to make it clear. Please assume I am not being sarcastic normally.

Originally Posted by abysalwhip2008 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes, im aware of the inate racial stat bonuses ogres and trolls have but Im a man of fun and lore and I really want to experience the green mist quest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP brought up Ogres and Trolls, so it is not off topic at all. He said he was fine with losing the innate racial stat bonuses. I simply pointed that out.

You are trying too hard to read things that aren't there, and I encourage you to take a step back and stop doing that. It just confuses other posters.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I actually did an ogre sk twink build once and put points into str. It was a glorious feeling capping strength naturally. I wasn’t just oozing with strength either I barely hit the cap but gave me the flexibility to prioritize other stats at that point.

People really need to know capping str without buffs is no cakewalk until you really start getting seriously geared. My troll has some casual raid gear and still only about 220 strength unbuffed.

It really is the greatest starting stat.

You’ll be sorry once a 60 shaman starts following you around spamming ME/Focus.

These days i dump str on almost all my toons. Even int casters. Gotta carry max cracked staffs!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People really need to know capping str without buffs is no cakewalk until you really start getting seriously geared. My troll has some casual raid gear and still only about 220 strength unbuffed.

It really is the greatest starting stat.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=300

Please stop trying to tell people STR is hard to cap. It doesn't help other people. You can get +235 STR with buffs. 100+ STR with multiple combinations of buffs. It is also easy to get a lot of STR with EC gear. Having 160 STR vs. 180 STR while leveling is really not a big deal. If it was, everybody would suggest picking only high STR races for melee classes.

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sta if you’re just grouping/raiding.
Int if ya wanna min max.
dex for casual greenmist procs.

Int will serve you the best overall imo.

You are simply going along with the trolls. You have done this in the past. I notice you didn't mention STR at all in your first post.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe it's not that he's autistic, but rather just an attention seeking manchild who wants to be the cleverest and coolest person in the room?

He basically exposes himself when he says ridiculous things like "I do not ignore people because they can redeem themselves". That's not autism -- that's just arrogant and pathetic.

But you're right to mock him, though. He needs a serious wakeup call.

Having autism and being an asshole are not mutually exclusive.

He is clearly intelligent but his apparent inability to think abstractly gets in the way of meaningful discourse. Toss in a pinch of narcissism and it’s a pretty ugly combination. Pretty sure if he sat himself down in front of a neuropsychologist he would walk away with a diagnosis of level 1 (high functioning) autism with mildly above average intelligence and impairments in social functioning skills and abstract reasoning.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You’ll be sorry once a 60 shaman starts following you around spamming ME/Focus.

These days i dump str on almost all my toons. Even int casters. Gotta carry max cracked staffs!

Oh, I quit that SK in the 30s. It's a fun class to try diff builds with, because they are so bad in the raid scene I don't feel bad abandoning them early on.

I like the STR idea though on casters too, my mage is constantly encumbered, I wish I did 25 str/5 int instead of the alternative.

[Gloomlord]

My personal opinion here is that I would put it into STA, unless you're going Dark Elf and Iksar perhaps.

Putting it into INT is a waste, though. An SK, through the overwhelming majority of its playtime, does not live or die because they didn't strive to max out INT and mana. Makes a bit more sense for a Paladin to put points into WIS by comparison, since they make more extensive use of their mana by healing.

I'd honestly think putting the points into DEX would be less of a waste.