Lord Nagafen & Lady Vox status (post 52 restriction)

[karsten]

oh, and apparently it is

[karsten]

Originally Posted by Asher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think that you will find most other guilds will agree with what Bruman and Yendor have been saying.

asher, i don't disagree with you, and I also understand why this is the case. It's important to me to demonstrate why this is the case, however, and it does boil down to something I often call "New York Yankees" syndrome. Also often termed "Los Angeles Lakers" syndrome. If we have,let's say, 800 people on the server and 60 people in TR, then it of course follows that the majority will feel that TR gets too much and they get too little.

Again, I don't know what to say to that. People who interact with me recognize me as a normal dude who enjoys a good troll but also won't tolerate an inappropriate one. I can't regulate the reactions of all the random people who feel themselves affected by the actions of my guild, however, which is why I also am not going to bow to the whims of yendor today and then the whims of you tomorrow.

You want people who have put in the time on this server to win a bunch of mobs to stop being dicks to the people who haven't. Well you lucked out, because we, and I want to emphasize everyone's favorite pariah, xzerion, aren't. As I've mentioned a few times before: we'll fight you for every mob, we love playing everquest and slaying dragons.

NOT THAT THERES ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT

[Harrison]

I didn't have any problem with TR until this thread.

"We tried to snake Nagafen just to be pricks." leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

[Abrok]

Off on a tangent again?

They are not arguing that you do not deserve to be the best. They are arguing your methods.

It seems as if you dropped your moral compass along this road to raiding greatness and do not give a fuck that it is broken anymore. That is, unless someone is approaching you with handcuffs.

From what I've read though, which is unfortunate, unless the GMs change up the rules and force you to not do some of the "douchey" things others claim you are doing, I do not see you changing anything. And I would bet the GMs did not even want to put in rules like the 15 man or FTE. They probably expected the people that would end up here to be civilized and mature. Can we get a little love for the people who let you come in and ruin their pretty, little, simulated world?

[karsten]

ahh, I understand now. Abrok, from now on we'll use your methods and your moral compass. thanks!

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Abrok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Off on a tangent again?

They are not arguing that you do not deserve to be the best. They are arguing your methods.

It seems as if you dropped your moral compass along this road to raiding greatness and do not give a fuck that it is broken anymore. That is, unless someone is approaching you with handcuffs.

From what I've read though, which is unfortunate, unless the GMs change up the rules and force you to not do some of the "douchey" things others claim you are doing, I do not see you changing anything. And I would bet the GMs did not even want to put in rules like the 15 man or FTE. They probably expected the people that would end up here to be civilized and mature. Can we get a little love for the people who let you come in and ruin their pretty, little, simulated world?

I was going to respond to Karsten but this pretty much sums it up.

Asher

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay, glad i'm not the only one seeing it that way. But you're right... Karsten is going to refuse to even consider what taking a high road might be if it nets TR one less raid target than the norm. So let's just call a spade a spade. Big talk, but not willing to put the phat lewts where his mouth is. That is the ultimate issue. They don't care about the health of the server or its community. Why should they? Things seem perfectly healthy to them. Until everyone gets sick of being leapfrogged or sniped or rules-lawyered and then the only people left on the server are 100 or so TR with no one but themselves to impress. Is that the end goal here?

How is letting TMO recruit every person around then sit on spawns taking the high road? You play this game to compete, not to be fuckin carebears who hug and pat one another on the back when one guild kills a mob. You guys want the original EQ experience, this is all part of it. If you want something, go get it.

[Asher]

Originally Posted by karsten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ahh, I understand now. Abrok, from now on we'll use your methods and your moral compass. thanks!

It doesn't bother you at all that everyone else has a problem with your sniping/leapfrogging tactics? Why does every non-TR person seem to think it isn't right?

Whether it is permitted by GMs or not it is a dick move. If you care what the community thinks of your guild you may want to reconsider.

Asher

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is letting TMO recruit every person around then sit on spawns taking the high road? You play this game to compete, not to be fuckin carebears who hug and pat one another on the back when one guild kills a mob. You guys want the original EQ experience, this is all part of it. If you want something, go get it.

This was not the original EQ experience on Prexus while I was there.

Asher

[visage]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

False, Karsten is one of the cooler people I've met on the server.

P.S. I've seen your picture. You aren't whooping any ass unless your idea of whooping is with your dick.

We'll I don't know him all to well. Therefore I will reject my comments and insights on him. Only because I respect you enough to trust your insight. As far as whooping as with my dick << I'm all for it. =P