Lord Nagafen & Lady Vox status (post 52 restriction)

[karsten]

folks, you've degenerated

[Skope]

Originally Posted by karsten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

folks, you've degenerated

and you've just loke'd your way outta my heart. goodbye friend. I thought you and i could, you know, have coherent conversations without backtracking and delusional thoughts and ideas but it seems they've got you as well. I can, and quite comfortably at that, say that all officers in TR are officially dickheads.

In fact, i think i may go an extra mile here... just answer these little questions for me:

How many naggies have you known that he doesn't banish like he's supposed to?

Also, has xzerion attended any of them?

Because when there's not a bug report about a super easy mob that's at the back of your list but the assumption is that he's a bitch to kill (that's assuming it's 52 on hatelist or gtfo) then that's quite an advantage, no? in fact, could you even say that supremely dickish behavior?

Am i accusing xzerion, even though he's a dev, of joining in on your dickish behavior? Maybe. does he put in a lot for the server? sure. does it make him immune for throwing him in the same bag as the rest of you? no.

Can you answer the questions, though?

[YendorLootmonkey]

Cyrano, Karsten... no one is proposing TR hand out "their mobs" to the undeserving masses. Not a single person here is advocating that, as far as I can tell.

Personally, I'm calling Xzerion and Karsten out for claiming TR "takes the high road" when in fact there are countless examples of them not taking the high road, and then the icing on the cake is Karsten pretty much saying that (paraphrased) "well, you can't clearly define this high road you speak of, so... sorry if we don't take it." So, now we can be certain this is simply a matter of "TR is expected to take the high road if it allows us to leapfrog over the guild taking the low road full of trash mobs."

You and the members of TR essentially have two choices:

Be competitive and get the raid targets, but respect other guilds when they have legitimately beaten you to the punch, thus taking the high road. This won't kill you... you get 90-95% of the raid mobs as it is due to your intense competitive nature.

Be competitive and get the raid targets, and disrespect other guilds when they have legitimately beaten you to the punch by:

a) fucking with their pull
b) rushing in to be FTE right before they engage
c) rules-lawyering some technicality so the GMs give you the loot after they killed the mob
d) sniping a mob out from under them by leapfrogging or other "dick moves"
e) generally doing whatever underhanded shit it takes to deny them

To this date, you have consistently chosen the latter route and have hidden behind the pretense of "competition".

But this isn't competition.

Competition was the first of the two choices above that you consciously make about the type of guild you want to be. The latter of the two choices is more about making the entire competition so goddamn fucking miserable for the rest of the players, including ones caught in the crossfire between the two main competitors, that no one else wants to play, and you win by default.

Winning by default by making everyone else sick of the game because of the underhanded shit that you do... is that truly the kind of competition you seek? Because if it is, then that's some sorry-ass spirit of competition you've got going there.

And the worst is yet to come when epics get released. You think TMO monopolizing Droga was bad? Because the name of your game is "deny everyone else anything that they could possibly use to come close to competing against you", we all know you're going to perma-camp Ragefire for your clerics, your cleric alts, and cleric alts of your cleric alts. You know it and I know it. Just like you're going to monopolize ST keys when Velious comes out, equip all your melees and their alts with primals and then put down all 4 warders. Hell, the plans are probably already drawn out on your forums, with who needs to be where, and what 8-hour shift you're responsible for.

THAT is what the rest of us have to look forward to unless TMO, Divinity, Taken, BDA, and VD all combine to do what we need to do to make it not fun for TR anymore and make you call it quits before any of that ever happens. But even that won't happen because the rest of us aren't arrogant or douchey enough to do the underhanded things necessary to stoop down to their level to cockblock a guild until they get fed up and stop logging in. Most of the rest of us understand that respect begets respect.

At the end of the day, when this server has come and went, no one is going to give a shit about what armor or weapons anyone in TR or any other guild had, or what mobs they killed, or how many times they killed Trak... all they are going to remember is the interactions they had with you. If you want your legacy to be "Wow, TR was a bunch of douchebags who ruined the server." then so be it. I can't change that. Shaere can't change that. Skope can't change that.

And I guess it doesn't matter because of the anonymity of the Internet, so go on and do whatever your conscience allows you to do, I guess.

[Eccezan]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cyrano, Karsten... no one is proposing TR hand out "their mobs" to the undeserving masses. Not a single person here is advocating that, as far as I can tell.

Personally, I'm calling Xzerion and Karsten out for claiming TR "takes the high road" when in fact there are countless examples of them not taking the high road, and then the icing on the cake is Karsten pretty much saying that (paraphrased) "well, you can't clearly define this high road you speak of, so... sorry if we don't take it." So, now we can be certain this is simply a matter of "TR is expected to take the high road if it allows us to leapfrog over the guild taking the low road full of trash mobs."

You and the members of TR essentially have two choices:

Be competitive and get the raid targets, but respect other guilds when they have legitimately beaten you to the punch, thus taking the high road. This won't kill you... you get 90-95% of the raid mobs as it is due to your intense competitive nature.

Be competitive and get the raid targets, and disrespect other guilds when they have legitimately beaten you to the punch by:

a) fucking with their pull
b) rushing in to be FTE right before they engage
c) rules-lawyering some technicality so the GMs give you the loot after they killed the mob
d) sniping a mob out from under them by leapfrogging or other "dick moves"
e) generally doing whatever underhanded shit it takes to deny them

To this date, you have consistently chosen the latter route and have hidden behind the pretense of "competition".

But this isn't competition.

Competition was the first of the two choices above that you consciously make about the type of guild you want to be. The latter of the two choices is more about making the entire competition so goddamn fucking miserable for the rest of the players, including ones caught in the crossfire between the two main competitors, that no one else wants to play, and you win by default.

Winning by default by making everyone else sick of the game because of the underhanded shit that you do... is that truly the kind of competition you seek? Because if it is, then that's some sorry-ass spirit of competition you've got going there.

And the worst is yet to come when epics get released. You think TMO monopolizing Droga was bad? Because the name of your game is "deny everyone else anything that they could possibly use to come close to competing against you", we all know you're going to perma-camp Ragefire for your clerics, your cleric alts, and cleric alts of your cleric alts. You know it and I know it. Just like you're going to monopolize ST keys when Velious comes out, equip all your melees and their alts with primals and then put down all 4 warders. Hell, the plans are probably already drawn out on your forums, with who needs to be where, and what 8-hour shift you're responsible for.

THAT is what the rest of us have to look forward to unless TMO, Divinity, Taken, BDA, and VD all combine to do what we need to do to make it not fun for TR anymore and make you call it quits before any of that ever happens. But even that won't happen because the rest of us aren't arrogant or douchey enough to do the underhanded things necessary to stoop down to their level to cockblock a guild until they get fed up and stop logging in. Most of the rest of us understand that respect begets respect.

At the end of the day, when this server has come and went, no one is going to give a shit about what armor or weapons anyone in TR or any other guild had, or what mobs they killed, or how many times they killed Trak... all they are going to remember is the interactions they had with you. If you want your legacy to be "Wow, TR was a bunch of douchebags who ruined the server." then so be it. I can't change that. Shaere can't change that. Skope can't change that.

And I guess it doesn't matter because of the anonymity of the Internet, so go on and do whatever your conscience allows you to do, I guess.

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[Nedala]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the worst is yet to come when epics get released. You think TMO monopolizing Droga was bad? Because the name of your game is "deny everyone else anything that they could possibly use to come close to competing against you", we all know you're going to perma-camp Ragefire for your clerics, your cleric alts, and cleric alts of your cleric alts. You know it and I know it. Just like you're going to monopolize ST keys when Velious comes out, equip all your melees and their alts with primals and then put down all 4 warders. Hell, the plans are probably already drawn out on your forums, with who needs to be where, and what 8-hour shift you're responsible for.

You seem to know a lot more than i do. Can you just stick with facts please and dont make things up?

[Lostprophets]

Originally Posted by Nedala [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem to know a lot more than i do. Can you just stick with facts please and dont make things up?

IMHO, I don't see anything there "made up" cause it was truth;

- NoS was in fact perma-camped, denying pretty much everyone from them.

- All of the key camps were also perma-camped for months.

- As for the future, those events are predictions as he did state "probably" in regards to reoccurring events.

I agree with him 100%.

People really need to learn what the word "share" means, and let others enjoy things too (regardless of how well or poor their performance is).



Karma is a bitch and it'll bite you in the ass one day.
Do one wrong, your basically doing yourself wrong. Do multiple wrongs, well...you get the picture.

[Ring]

Originally Posted by Lostprophets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IMHO, I don't see anything there "made up" cause it was truth;

- NoS was in fact perma-camped, denying pretty much everyone from them.

- All of the key camps were also perma-camped for months.

- As for the future, those events are predictions as he did state "probably" in regards to reoccurring events.

I agree with him 100%.

People really need to learn what the word "share" means, and let others enjoy things too (regardless of how well or poor their performance is).



Karma is a bitch and it'll bite you in the ass one day.
Do one wrong, your basically doing yourself wrong. Do multiple wrongs, well...you get the picture.

Your guild not getting raid mobs must be karma for abusing MQ2 / SEQ.

[Lostprophets]

Originally Posted by Ring [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your guild not getting raid mobs must be karma for abusing MQ2 / SEQ.

So says one (hiding his/her in-game name) from a Guild that knows what mob is dropping what milliseconds before it's even mentioned/linked in another guilds guild chat. (this naggy dispute is a prime suspect w/ the treasure hunters satchel)


If Taken is was using Mq2 / Seq (we aren't but do tell me), why AREN'T we getting EVERY mob (or there within 2 seconds in full force of the mob spawning)?


...yeah, ...that's what I thought, Hater.

[Ring]

Originally Posted by Lostprophets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If Taken is was using Mq2 / Seq (we aren't but do tell me), why AREN'T we getting EVERY mob (or there within 2 seconds in full force of the mob spawning)?


...yeah, ...that's what I thought, Hater.

Because you're awful at EverQuest and even MQ2 / SEQ aren't enough to turn that tide. Seems pretty simple to me. You're still a collection of cheaters and I can't wait until your next guildleader gets banned for MQ2 so you can change your name again.