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Ok all, I'm now level 35 bard. This is my highest level character, so I
don't know the high end game which is where my questions lie...
First of all, there was a thread awhile back about bards that eventually
trailed off to bards pulling, namely in planes. I've grouped with others
recently who claim to have high level characters and never seen bards pull
at higher levels. True, this game is what you make it out to be, i.e. a
little imagination can go a long way, but I would like a little
clarification on this. To me it seems to be a waste to send the bard for
pulling, as all the casters want their manasong, and bards tend to create
high aggro so I end up pulling a little more than I care to sometimes.
Other question is simple. I'm using instruments a little more now during
battle. I'm not sure how I like that as opposed to weapons. I recently
grouped with a couple of more experienced players that claim I will soon not
be using weapons at all. How true is this? I was in a group last night
with no healer and used a lute (no magic instruments yet) to improve hymn of
restoration and chords of dissonance. I kept all but the tank full, and the
tank nearly full of hp and I do either 30 or 31/tick for damage with CoD.
Add Chains and mana and it seemed a good combination. I was verbally (well,
chat anyways) assaulted by the tank for not having weapons drawn. Screw it,
his problem. But my question is basically how true is this "I won't be
using weapons soon" claim?
Either way is fine by me, but as I'm not a twink and not exactly rich, I
need to upgrade equipment wisely. If I won't be using weapons much, I'm not
dumping tons of PP into them.
TIA for any help,
SEAN...
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Akbar BelAkesh
Cyber Pimp
(2/4/02 1:49:33 pm)
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Re: RANT: Being a bard
My experience with the bards I've seen while playing my alt, they REALLY need to learn to control their aggro better. These bards rush in like idiots playing songs with a pack of mobs there. They get aggro almost immediately and instead of charming or trying to do and CC they TANK.
The healer then has to heal them which aggro's the healer and blows a ton of mana.
If you get a pack of mobs and the bard isn't going to CC, they'd almost be more useful doing straight melee or ( you guessed it ) sitting their butts down and playing c2 song.
For god sakes don't play a AE heal song when you have 3-4 live mobs and the tank is trying to maintain aggro of all of them.
The last bard I had in my group was in CT. We'd pull 3-4 at a time. The bard would move in, get aggro almost immediatly, then we'd all watch his HP drop. The healer would heal him and the mobs would then aggro the healer. Of course the bard doesn't do any mezzing or charming... why? because it generates to much aggro... go figure.
So the bard dies. He run's back from FP, loots his corpse, and asks to rejoin the group. I tell him, "you can rejoin if you don't get hit". He's like ok... so then he rejoins and what's the first thing he does? LOL. All the mobs jump him. I refuse to heal him and he dies. He runs back from FP. First pull back, he aggro's all the mobs and dies again! After that he just gave up and left and the group did great.
Fast forward a month or so. I'm in CT again with a group of myself and a cleric. A bard sends me a tell, "Got room for me and a rogue?". I tell him, "Well yeah, but I'm a bit leary about inviting a bard, ya'll tend to draw to much aggro" ... he says, "lol, so?" ... well.. that was the end of that.
Just like any class, if your fellow ranger/bard/enchanter/clerics etc suck, that will shape peoples experiences. It will make people less willing to let you try things unless they know and trust you.
In otherwords, don't rant about the people telling you to sit back there and play the clarity song. Lets get a rant going about all the boneheaded bards that diminished the trust players might have in you.
Ak
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Kinoel
Cyber Pimp
(2/5/02 11:04:48 pm)
Reply Re: RANT: Being a bard
A lot of ppl make bards thinking they can tank cuz they wear Plate. They never even thought about it. Fact is, we dont tank any better than a ranger. Yeah, we get more AC than they do, but they get more HP than Bards do.
When there's a multi pull, it's automatic that anything the tank doesnt have a good aggro on will jump the bard if he's singing. So to all twink bards out there, if you think there's going to be a multi pull, shut your yap. And CC IS part of a bard's life, dont like it? You better look to make another twink, like a monk or a ranger.
Bards are one of the hardest classes to play (Note, I didnt say THE hardest). They can do a shitload of stuff, but it's not always useful to do it, you gotta know your songs VERY well (and rare are the songs that are just better versions of another one) and you get to carry around a load of stuff. For example, I carry around 5 weapons on me at all times, and there are 4 more that I want, the instruments, CC gear (very important till the high 50s).
I see everyone making bard twinks around, and I get to wonder how many will actually make it to their mid 50s :lol
Ryolas Songdivine
54 lvl Master of the Jig
"That's thirty minutes away. I'll be there in ten." --The Wolf (Pulp Fiction)
Kinoel Feuerfaust
55 lvl Glass Cannon
"Guess you broke into the wrong God damn rec room, didn't ya!" --Burt Gummer (Tremors)
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