Shadow knight aggro

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Silly is making over a hundred posts, almost 40% of the posts in a thread, advocating for an approach that is sub-optimal to the approach that almost everyone else in the thread advocates for.

By not making an argument that your approach is optimal, you concede by default that the other approach almost everyone else favors is optimal.

This is incorrect. Your misreading of this thread is not relevant. Nuance seems to be lost on you unfortunately.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is incorrect. Your misreading of this thread is not relevant. Nuance seems to be lost on you unfortunately.

Refusal to engage on the merits plus a personal attack. This is what trolling looks like.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Refusal to engage on the merits plus a personal attack. This is what trolling looks like.

You are purposely mischaracterizing my position and trying to force me to agree with it, thus making a strawman to attack. Pointing that out is not trolling. If you don't want me to point it out, please stop doing it.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are purposely mischaracterizing my position and trying to force me to agree with it, thus making a strawman to attack. Pointing that out is not trolling. If you don't want me to point it out, please stop doing it.

I apologize for mischaracterizing your position. It's just really hard for me to wrap my mind around the idea of someone making over a hundred posts advocating for an approach, while being unable or unwilling to argue that it's more optimal than the approach almost everyone else in the thread prefers.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I apologize for mischaracterizing your position. It's just really hard for me to wrap my mind around the idea of someone making over a hundred posts advocating for an approach, while being unable or unwilling to argue that it's more optimal than the approach almost everyone else in the thread prefers.

I am not doing that, so you don't need to worry about wrapping your head around it! This is the issue, you are making assumptions about what you think I am doing, while ignoring what I am saying.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=276

This is what I have been saying the whole time. Were some of my posts worded incorrectly? Sure. I admitted as much.

Have people been harassing this thread and trolling it? Absolutely. The bloat comes from the trolls, not from me. You should spend more time commenting on their bad behavior.

If you were being sincere, you would be telling other posters something like "I agree with your position, but why are you acting so hostile and trolling this thread simply because of another person's perspective?" Your criticisms ring hollow when you ignore everything else, especially when they do the things you accuse me of.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are a player like Snaggles, you can spam taunt to get some utility out of it. You get +1 hate every 6 seconds, and an 8.33% chance to taunt automatically.

Snaggles has already seen the light! He's the chief evangelist of MacroTaunt:

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’ll still likely put taunt on my bar. To a single hotkey with a /doability # and /cast 1 entry. I’m going to call this Macro Taunt. Please enter it as the third and most superior method. It’s the Venn Diagram between lazy and effective.

All hail MacroTaunt! Truly the pinnacle of optimal gameplay!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Snaggles has already seen the light! He's the chief evangelist of MacroTaunt:

All hail MacroTaunt! Truly the pinnacle of optimal gameplay!

Of course! Snaggles can use his MacroTaunt too. I am not trying to force people into a single strategy. I am explaining the options, and letting the reader decide which one they want to use. Information is power. Let people know all the details of taunt and how it can be used. There is no harm in that.

Clearly there are people out there who don't press taunt at all, so it isn't like everybody is using strategic taunt to begin with. If they can put taunt on a macro they can spam, they'll get more use out of taunt than if they don't use it at all. https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=276

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I probably "go at it harder" than you do as a matter of habit.

I also play my character correctly in a consistent manner. More agro is better than less agro, so I try to eek out every bit I can. Spamming taunt is "going harder" than someone who doesn't press taunt at all. It's a small bonus, but something is better than nothing. You can always switch to strategic taunting whenever you need to, since it has a 6 second cooldown.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course! Snaggles can use his MacroTaunt too. I am not trying to force people into a single strategy. I am explaining the options, and letting the reader decide which one they want to use. Information is power. Let people know all the details of taunt and how it can be used. There is no harm in that.

Agreed absolutely! Everyone should play how they want to play. If you like Clicking The Button, Click The Button, it'll be fine. But it's important for people to know that if they want to minimize the chances of aggro flipping where a single taunt fails to flip it back, the optimal approach is to use taunt strategically, and not spam it. Information is power.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed absolutely! Everyone should play how they want to play. If you like Clicking The Button, Click The Button, it'll be fine.

Yes, play how you want.

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But it's important for people to know that if they want to minimize the chances of aggro flipping where a single taunt fails to flip it back, the optimal approach is to use taunt strategically, and not spam it. Information is power.

If your first strategic taunt fails and you are still in melee range, you will be spamming the taunt button to get it off cooldown as fast as possible for a second attempt. Another reason why spamming taunt is something people need to know about. It also works with strategic taunting!

[bcbrown]

I think we can wrap this thread up. Good work everyone!