Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would you say this? If you knew how a Shaman worked, you would know this is false.

Ok professor, educate me.

Your ench partner is at 100% health. Your enchanter has a hasted, quadding high dps pet and charm breaks. The mob summons (or doesn’t summon but root broke cause this is a “pickle”). The enchanter is now being wailed on by the pet and the mob. Or an alternative scenario is that ench gets a bad pull. 2-3 mobs incomming and pet suddenly breaks. All 3-4 mobs (one a beefed up pet) are on the loose.

Please keep in mind that the alternative partner here (cleric) would just fire a longish duration AoE stun to fix the “pickle” in 1 seconds worth of cast time. Even if the spell resists, mobs are now on the cleric who can take a few rounds and backup DA giving thr ench precious time to recover.

Ok professor. Educate me. What do you do?

And … go!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok professor, educate me.

Your ench partner is at 100% health. Your enchanter has a hasted, quadding high dps pet and charm breaks. The mob summons (or doesn’t summon but root broke cause this is a “pickle”). The enchanter is now being wailed on by the pet and the mob. Or an alternative scenario is that ench gets a bad pull. 2-3 mobs incomming and pet suddenly breaks. All 3-4 mobs (one a beefed up pet) are on the loose.

Please keep in mind that the alternative partner here (cleric) would just fire a longish duration AoE stun to fix the “pickle” in 1 seconds worth of cast time. Even if the spell resists, mobs are now on the cleric who can take a few rounds and backup DA giving thr ench precious time to recover.

Ok professor. Educate me. What do you do?

And … go!

Why don't you strong man a Shaman in this scenario. Since you keep claiming you know Shamans so well, and have done everything, this should be an easy one for you.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok professor, educate me.

Your ench partner is at 100% health. Your enchanter has a hasted, quadding high dps pet and charm breaks. The mob summons (or doesn’t summon but root broke cause this is a “pickle”). The enchanter is now being wailed on by the pet and the mob. Or an alternative scenario is that ench gets a bad pull. 2-3 mobs incomming and pet suddenly breaks. All 3-4 mobs (one a beefed up pet) are on the loose.

Please keep in mind that the alternative partner here (cleric) would just fire a longish duration AoE stun to fix the “pickle” in 1 seconds worth of cast time. Even if the spell resists, mobs are now on the cleric who can take a few rounds and backup DA giving thr ench precious time to recover.

Ok professor. Educate me. What do you do?

And … go!

Answer the question.

One of the above scenarios happens. Your enchanter needs your help, desperately and quickly. What do you do? You accused me of not understanding how a shaman works. If that indeed is the case, I humbly ask you to educate me.

Shit has hit the fan. Your enchanter needs you. What does a shaman do?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Answer the question.

One of the above scenarios happens. Your enchanter needs your help, desperately and quickly. What do you do? You accused me of not understanding how a shaman works. If that indeed is the case, I humbly ask you to educate me.

Shit has hit the fan. Your enchanter needs you. What does a shaman do?

As you can see, Troxx keeps doding the original question posed to him by trying to ask another question instead.

[Vivitron]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your ench partner is at 100% health. Your enchanter has a hasted, quadding high dps pet and charm breaks. The mob summons (or doesn’t summon but root broke cause this is a “pickle”). The enchanter is now being wailed on by the pet and the mob.

That is a trick question that highlights one benefit of the shaman: the target isn't attacking the enchanter, it's attacking the shaman. The shaman put in slow aggro right away. The cleric can put in aggro and provide this same benefit, but instead of happening by default it requires some discipline and they probably only bother against a few hard hitting unstunnable targets.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Vivitron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is a trick question that highlights one benefit of the shaman: the target isn't attacking the enchanter, it's attacking the shaman. The shaman put in slow aggro right away. The cleric can put in aggro and provide this same benefit, but instead of happening by default it requires some discipline and they probably only bother against a few hard hitting unstunnable targets.

This is correct. AoE slow works wonders too if multiple mobs come in. Just AoE slow and you have agro most of the time for at least the two adds, maybe the charmed pet too.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Vivitron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is a trick question that highlights one benefit of the shaman: the target isn't attacking the enchanter, it's attacking the shaman. The shaman put in slow aggro right away. The cleric can put in aggro and provide this same benefit, but instead of happening by default it requires some discipline and they probably only bother against a few hard hitting unstunnable targets.

And the scenario where the enchanter has a botched pull yet charm breaks while they are incomming? AoE slow takes 5 seconds to cast. You’re looking at a potentially dead enchanter in 5 seconds. When one of them is buffed to the teeth and quaffing.

For the other where the “mob” is hitting the shaman but the pet broke and is beating on the enchanter … health dropping? Ideally the enchanter can quickly lock it down but be it an interrupted cast or a resisted enchanter stun - the charmer can drop fast.

“Pickle” moments happen. If you haven’t ever seen one … you just haven’t played long enough.


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Answer the question directly DSM.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the scenario where the enchanter has a botched pull yet charm breaks while they are incomming? AoE slow takes 5 seconds to cast. You’re looking at a potentially dead enchanter in 5 seconds. When one of them is buffed to the teeth and quaffing.

For the other where the “mob” is hitting the shaman but the pet broke and is beating on the enchanter … health dropping? Ideally the enchanter can quickly lock it down but be it an interrupted cast or a resisted enchanter stun - the charmer can drop fast.

“Pickle” moments happen. If you haven’t ever seen one … you just haven’t played long enough.


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Answer the question directly DSM.

You still haven't confirmed your answer. You are saying you would simply heal and nothing else? You have no insight into other strategies?

Once you confirm, I'll answer.

[Trexller]

Monday Morning Quarterback?

or Armchair General?