Best 4 person all caster/priest group

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Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol im nowhere near bis

i always went for the budget items spread across alts with my 5% RA

I know, but I always thought you managed to get close enough!

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is just a slippery slope argument, and has already been debunked multiple times. Creating a new pocket Cleric in a group purposely starting new characters together is clearly not the same thing as using a stable of existing BiS mains/alts. Those characters already exist. A new pocket cleric is made by this group and they level it up together.

The slippery slope is not a logical fallacy per se; it depends on the probability of the implied events. For example, the wikipedia page for the slippery slope shows a cartoon from 1895 about how weddings would look in 2001 if women got the right to vote with an extremely large woman in a tux and a tiny, feminine man. They are clearly intending to mock the cartoonist - but in our age of 2SLGBTQI+ was he wrong?

In this case the probability of additional steps is extremely high. If you are willing to to add a pocket cleric to a 4 man group, there is no reason not to add a pocket druid for ports, or a pocket necro for corpse summon, and then you might as well get them a little gear so that they can help 'with key encounters'. The probability of these steps is even higher on the forums where no actual effort is involved and the egos of the debaters are on the line!

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem to be ignoring the other posters like Troxx who is so hell bent on winning he will spam the thread, troll, and lie about what other people have said. It is always amazing that people ignore this bad behavior and think it is ok. This thread would have been over long ago without this kind of nonsense.

I don't think Troxx has covered himself in glory in this thread, and he knows it. But you should ask yourself why you are triggering so quite many people.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You say I need to provide evidence. I have done a lot more of that than the opposition. Why don't you do this yourself, or ask someone else to do so? Evidence would be great, but it's mostly coming from me and nobody else. This seems one sided don't you think?

When you want to prove X empirically, the best thing to do is to measure X, not measure Y and then claim that Y implies X using Z logic. If you can setup ENC/ENC/CLR/SHM vs ENC/ENC/CLR/MAG groups, even in something like like the Chef/Bar camp and prove that SHM kills more frogs, you will put Troxx & co in a very difficult place. Alternatively, you can type out another 1800 posts.