Discussion: PvP Deaths (Item/Coin/XP Loot/Gain)

[Harrison]

Item loot is retarded.

[nilbog]

Well I played with item loot, and I didn't care if I lost my shoes. It also gives reason to complete the obscure, no-drop quests that no one ever does.

It's hard to give my opinion without saying I'm advocating it for the server. I'm just trying to give my opinion as a pvper. :P

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[opinion]Global ooc is a terrible idea for peak populations greater than 250. Believe it or not, not everyone wants or needs to hear everything everyone has to say. It empowers idiots and spammers.

I know, I know. It will be suggested to turn off ooc. However, players shouldn't have to disable native, classic features of eq.. to satisfy the needs of others.

Low population, I'd advocate global ooc on for functionality, but still not for "chat".[/opinion]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I played with item loot, and I didn't care if I lost my shoes. It also gives reason to complete the obscure, no-drop quests that no one ever does.

It's hard to give my opinion without saying I'm advocating it for the server. I'm just trying to give my opinion as a pvper. :P

Disregard the vocal eqemu pvp crowd and set the server up how you'd envision playing on it imo. You're obviously an old school RZ player and we both know that the RZ pvp system worked just fine.

I'm in the same boat as you. It's pretty funny how many "hardcore PVPers" are advocating against item looting, as if playing on an RZ style server would automatically ensure you're going to get ganked and lose all of your best gear. People would play on the server no matter what, simply because of it being free of cheats and due to the reputation you guys at P99 have for stability. They'd learn the system and adapt to it just like the thousands of players back in '99-'01 did.

[Atmas]

Coin loot is fine.

Item looting just makes quick gains for the lucky and the zergs. XP gain or loss just promotes griefing and exploiting.

[Kope]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Disregard the vocal eqemu pvp crowd and set the server up how you'd envision playing on it imo. You're obviously an old school RZ player and we both know that the RZ pvp system worked just fine.

I'm in the same boat as you. It's pretty funny how many "hardcore PVPers" are advocating against item looting, as if playing on an RZ style server would automatically ensure you're going to get ganked and lose all of your best gear. People would play on the server no matter what, simply because of it being free of cheats and due to the reputation you guys at P99 have for stability. They'd learn the system and adapt to it just like the thousands of players back in '99-'01 did.

I have a lot of respect for you Bard but i don't think you're thinking long term here.

It's been many years since we were originally on live. Many people have families of their own now with children and don't have time to regrind out items they worked hard to get, or buy. Less people will play on the server because of this.

We need a server that can incorporate both the oldschool PVP crowd and people who want to try it out for the first time and be at least relatively successful at it.

[Rushmore]

I will say Bard is a good player; I've seen this. But he hasn't been around with VZTZ for the last 4 years to see all it's failures.

And that's all the hardcore pvpers you say are trying to advocate.

Success.

[Tamiah2011]

Originally Posted by Rushmore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will say Bard is a good player; I've seen this. But he hasn't been around with VZTZ for the last 4 years to see all it's failures.

And that's all the hardcore pvpers you say are trying to advocate.

Success.

Pvp failed because Sony keep changing the rules for every carebear that cried to them.RZ ran great with item loot and without GM getting involved.Pvp didnt fail till they starting changing the rules.Plus even you whiners loved it when you got lucky and looted a sweet piece of gear.