Health, fitness, gains and wellbeing

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Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

im pretty fit, and healthy and so i have been judgemental against people who are not.

But i saw a thing that said that some people burn calories more than others, and they gave an example like, some when they sit naturally sit, others shake their legs etc tap their feet, and that actually burns calories, those people are more prone to be thinner.

And while watching I realized that the whole time my 2 feet were moving like a hummingbird wings as I was watching this stupid thing on tv for the last hr at 11pm, and thought well shit i guess I am genetically lucky.

Still a conservative though.

Yea you have a high NEAT - Non Exercise Activity Thermogenesis

[atomicpaul]

there's a word for that, good to know. i also move endlessly somehow and walk a lot, but rarely work out, and remain in decent shape for some reason despite all the alcohol. i am not good at sitting still for long periods.

still a commie though. that's apparently an important distinction?

[shovelquest]

I thought the word was, "skinny fat" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by atomicpaul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

still a commie though. that's apparently an important distinction?

Hmm this is a tough call...

Seeing as though you have to spend less time exercising to maintain a good body fat ratio, you should work more so the workers that don't have that natural privilage have time to work out in the morning.

10 hour day for you, 6 hour for them.

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Originally Posted by atomicpaul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there's a word for that, good to know. i also move endlessly somehow and walk a lot, but rarely work out, and remain in decent shape for some reason despite all the alcohol. i am not good at sitting still for long periods.

still a commie though. that's apparently an important distinction?

Only in regard to the weird cultural attitude towards health and oppression

There was someone that did a deep dive into it, and apparently there is some scholarly and historical backing to the attitude. I wish I could find the video because he had really cited a lot of sources

But the gist of it is that communism (from my limited understanding) is about empowering the working class and fighting all these forms of oppression. And unfortunately there seems to be this weird modern day attitude amongst some communists that fitness is a form of oppression. This is because a fit, strong person is in a better position to intimidate, physically control or oppress others even if that isn’t their intention

And so there is this attitude of people shouldn’t get fit because it COULD lead to oppression of others easier….or something

I’m not sure if it’s also an issue with empathizing with those that aren’t able bodied, or even a jealously thing like “I’m not going to get fit because I don’t want others to be jealous of me”

I don’t really understand any of it. All I suspect is that if a person like me went onto pro-communism communities and exclusively talked about personal physical self improvement, I would NOT be a liked or popular fellow in that community, for whatever reason. I probably wouldn’t be hated either, but I definitely wouldn’t be liked

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Most pro-communism communities look like they could use a good meal. I wouldn't say they're on the right track to a utopia at all. ANTIFA basically call themselves the "anti bad guy squad" because that way they can never be the bad guys. If that's not some top tier mental gymnastics I don't know what is.

They should join a gym.

[atomicpaul]

Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only in regard to the weird cultural attitude towards health and oppression

There was someone that did a deep dive into it, and apparently there is some scholarly and historical backing to the attitude. I wish I could find the video because he had really cited a lot of sources

But the gist of it is that communism (from my limited understanding) is about empowering the working class and fighting all these forms of oppression. And unfortunately there seems to be this weird modern day attitude amongst some communists that fitness is a form of oppression. This is because a fit, strong person is in a better position to intimidate, physically control or oppress others even if that isn’t their intention

And so there is this attitude of people shouldn’t get fit because it COULD lead to oppression of others easier….or something

I’m not sure if it’s also an issue with empathizing with those that aren’t able bodied, or even a jealously thing like “I’m not going to get fit because I don’t want others to be jealous of me”

I don’t really understand any of it. All I suspect is that if a person like me went onto pro-communism communities and exclusively talked about personal physical self improvement, I would NOT be a liked or popular fellow in that community, for whatever reason. I probably wouldn’t be hated either, but I definitely wouldn’t be liked

i was just joking because shovel mentioned he was a conservative, but he has advanced politics brain rot so he can't help it. aside from the general fixation of many right-wing dudes on personal fitness, i don't really see what it has to do with anything.

don't worry, nobody is liked in left-wing communities, not initially.

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Originally Posted by atomicpaul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i don't really see what it has to do with anything.

It shouldn’t. It absolutely shouldn’t

Politics has infested movies, and gaming, and religion, and business, and all these other things

But health and wellness is about as apolitical as it gets, or at least should be. And from a survival standpoint, the closer that both sides are coming to blows, the even more crucial fitness becomes! I mean, there’s a reason that both police and military have fitness requirements

Some people are like “civil war looms! The revolution is upon us!” Ok then why are you still so goddamn out of shape? Do you want to die right at the start of this revolution? And what’s even worse, is that for every minute until your death you’ll be a walking pure liability for your friends and fellow militia? Someone they have to babysit as you huff and puff your way along?

Makes no sense to me

[atomicpaul]

yeah, i get it, it has been my experience your average trump supporter cannot handle a mere flight of stairs, though. i am sure that is an exception, given the stats, math rarely lies. i don't necessarily believe stats on the left, given the state's bias. the right should not, either. feel free to take that as propaganda, it is irrelevant in 99.99% of cases.

the challenge is: you get shot the same if the person shooting you is out of shape. muscles ain't making anyone bulletproof, not that you were claiming they do. i am a pro-2a person, despite the fact that i have no respect for any amendments or the constitution in the first place, but you can bet your ass it'd be cited in a hypothetical court case. women, without even considering if trans women are women, are a fine example of why this is necessary. gun rights are women's rights, esp. in a country as psychotic as america. guns are an equalizer.

does it make a difference if the gun gets knocked out of the fight? sure, yeah. but firearms became popular for a variety of reasons. accessibility is one of them.

i don't think most people consider it in the context of a hypothetical civil war, that's a different ball game altogether. it's mainly about the immediate threat regardless of what form it takes.

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I look at it like life is a game of inches. And sometimes it’s only an inch between life and death

Picture poor war torn Gaza. Rubble of buildings everywhere. I don’t think a lot of people realize how hard it is to scramble along the loose rubble of a collapsed building. What kind of balance you need. How many calories you will be burning. How winded you will get

Hell, even someone as athletic as me underestimated until I got lost and off trail on my state’s highest mountain, and ended up scrambling along the loose shale on some slope. I started a mini avalanche, I slipped and fell repeatedly cutting up the sides of my legs. And what it took out of me! It felt like that scramble took a mile of hiking’s worth out energy out of me, to just get through

And I’m picturing a drone flying at my head ready to explode. Maybe they already have the tech to where they can’t be dodged. But maybe the pilot has an itchy trigger finger and didn’t anticipate that someone is agile enough to try to juke it. And they do. And instead of exploding their head it just hits their shoulder and it’s a survivable wound. That’s the inch in the game of inches

It’s not just cardio though. It’s agility. It’s core strength. Even gun battles are going to involve some movement. And the terrain is likely going to be super shitty, the city equivalent of bushwacking

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

This completely proves my point. I am literally the ONLY person commenting this particular thing about this recent police use of force:

I’m not going to link the bodycam footage although it is not all that bad. In the footage, this fat, portly cop approaches a black man who is above average physique and having a complete psychotic break, including the black man yelling religious preoccupation delusions the entire fight

The black man completely man handles the shit out of the fat officer. Pummeling him repeatedly with his fists after a taser fails to stop him. At one point the black man even trips and makes a loud “OOF!” Sound as he falls backwards completely onto his ass and back. But the fat, winded, out of shape police officer is completely unable to capitalize on it and simply stands there until the black man gets up and resumes attacking him

It needs to be said though, that the officer was no doubt fearing using his gun due to the inevitable legal and public opinion fallout that comes with shooting an unarmed black man, even if that man is attacking the cop

This concludes with the black man getting the cop on the cop’s back, climbing over him, getting to his police cruiser, stealing it, and going on a high speed chase that results in him being shot and killed by police later


My question is: when you have to put your own life, and the lives of your friends and co-workers with you on the line every single day….

WHY
THE
FUCK
WOULD
YOU
DELIBERATELY
STAY
SO
FAT
AND
OUT
OF
SHAPE???

Why? It makes no goddamn sense. Are there not police fitness requirements any more? That cop was presented with a golden opportunity when the black man fell backwards on this ass and back to take control of the fight. Do you know how hard it is to stand up in a street fight? All it takes is a single push, a single kick, and you are back on your ass. Again. And again. You can also easily get knocked out trying to stand up because most people try to stand up by taking their hands and placing them on the ground in front of them, exposing their head and face to a punch or kick

This all could have been avoided in many ways. Sad the black dude died especially if it was just mental health and not drugs