Remove Angry Goblin Window

[cd288]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To be clear, everyone in the forum can weigh in with their opinions ... but those opinions are 100% meaningless.

The ONLY thing that matters for the player agreement is that all of the players doing the roll agree to it. It doesn't matter if everyone in the forums wants X seconds: if the people at the roll want to wait an hour, then the wait time will become an hour.

If you want to change the timer, it's simple: show up to the next roll and get everyone there to agree to the change. Keep doing that for several rolls (the staff has never clarified exactly how many), and it will become the new staff-enforced standard.

No shit Loramin, thanks for stating the obvious

[loramin]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No shit Loramin, thanks for stating the obvious

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[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Teddie1056 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. Make it 30 seconds
2. Shrink the window on the server
3. Unroot dragons
4. Make a 3x kill 1x lockout policy for raid mobs
5. Make Naethyn and Yendor play with me again.

All helpful, but what the game really needs is things like Angry Goblin having a chance to spawn off a handful of different NPC's in zone, and after one of those NPC's triggers the spawn, the chance then jumps to another random NPC in zone. Thus, people must dungeon crawl in order to get loot, not just sit in one spot and camp a single NPC.

[Duik]

Sounds so simple.

10 secs allows cheaters to cheat. Disallowing real temp afkers from rolling.

30 secs allows a *reasonable* amount of time for real players to respond (on an 8hr window) while stopping reloging for another roll.

Advovates for the 10sec roll seem to need to justify their need for 10secs as opposed to 30 secs that offers advantages to non cheaters while passively disabling cheaters.

Just saying.

[kjs86z2]

just simply choose not to participate

Having SWC isn't worth this nonsense, trust me.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just simply choose not to participate

Having SWC isn't worth this nonsense, trust me.

Yeah. I want the 2nd ring but I'll buy a ring of lightning and/or go through the hassle of getting a pitted iron ring long before I ever attempt this kind of bullshit.

I love this dumb game just as much as anyone else but that mechanic is unemployed tier and I ain't got time for that.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just simply choose not to participate

Having SWC isn't worth this nonsense, trust me.

Or pay the 75k to get one and skip waiting in line, swc and ring 2 both easier to buy is plat is laughable easy to get .

[WarpathEQ]

My viewpoint is 10 sec roll means you actually have to earn it and be there. 30 sec roll means everyone AFK, here for loot lottery, using external methods that weren't prevelent in era, and now the attendance at rolls if 4-5x more and the item is even more gate keeped as a result.

I'm in favor of standardizing rolls, make all rolls 10 seconds. I've never once missed a roll because 10 seconds was not enough time to react. But I've certainly seen plenty of rolls that are overcrowded with people that are nearly 100% AFK.

[cd288]

The majority of 10 second rollers are probably scripting an auto roll upon pop. They're not like putting in some super serious time like people who would be rolling within 30 seconds are not haha

[WarpathEQ]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The majority of 10 second rollers are probably scripting an auto roll upon pop. They're not like putting in some super serious time like people who would be rolling within 30 seconds are not haha

That has not been my experience. Not sure what you could even use to script off angry/shady as I don't think there is any text or anything other than visual que that they spawned. Just the text once turn in happens which is too late (I could very well be wrong just going off memory). Certainly could be a concern for some of the other player agreements.

Could script off other rolls but too many false rolls happen during the 8 hours it would be super obvious if someone was scripting that, and given the toxicity of this quest line would be reported heavily I would expect. Never once seen that and I've done atleast 40 angrys for full window.

What I do see quite often, especially on the overnight windows is people setting up GINA triggers and completely walking away from the computer. Angry spawns and they either don't wake up or get back to keyboard right away. They end up rolling after the 10 seconds but under 30 seconds and don't get rewarded free loot for cheating the system and the loot ends up going to someone that was actually there putting in effort and socking the window. IMO that is a feature, not a bug, or the 10 second timer and working as intended.