Faded memories with no proof

[Goregasmic]

I wanted a light burlap sack/EE bag for an alt 2 weeks ago and I had trouble getting the camps. People farming TBB like its 1999. Magus/hand are often taken too. Everything has been farmed to hell and back on here.

[WarpathEQ]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wanted a light burlap sack/EE bag for an alt 2 weeks ago and I had trouble getting the camps. People farming TBB like its 1999. Magus/hand are often taken too. Everything has been farmed to hell and back on here.

Yeah LBS rots all the time, just gotta be in zone when it drops and its your!

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't remember the exact timeline but on the rathe the attainable raid bosses/zones were on a big rotation. IIRC some point there was 25+ raid guilds on the trakanon one. This would "dilute" the loot and make it seem more rare than it actually is. There's 500-700 players on green spread into a handful of major guilds. Back then on live it wasn't rare to see 3000+ players on a server and many more guilds. So you'd get to see a raid drop once every couple months sometimes, if it actually dropped.

And yeah, for the "current" content usually only the top 1-3 guilds could manage it if even. I was in a top3 guild and I think we were wiping on vindi post velious.

And he remembers earring of station being rare but not here but I investigated that particular item a couple weeks back and most people agreed it takes several thousand kills to get one on p99. Might have been a lesser known item back then or have less terminally online people going after it. The general knowledge base back on live was terrible.

Yeah I'm not saying I think drop rates here are 100% classic. There's certainly a chance he's right.

But there's such an easy explanation for anecdotal evidence like "I don't remember seeing this item on people that much on live" that it's not really a relevant discussion.

Your point about more players per server is a good one that I didn't think about. Combine that with only a top guild or two being able to do the higher raid content and items are going to seem even more rare since the percent of people you see them on is way lower.

[druidbob]

I swear I remember rolling a gnome SK before Luclin launched.

[wuanahto]

Originally Posted by druidbob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I swear I remember rolling a gnome SK before Luclin launched.

the prepatch?

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Low level mobs are way to soft here. I remember at level 9 really struggling against blues, even with a bunch of banded armor and a fay mart weapon like mino axes.

Here the same fights are trivial in tattered armor and tarnished weapons. Honestly it feels better this way - that you can keep up with mobs a little longer just in the things you scrounge/craft, but I don't think it is classic.

I think it's the opposite. Ac actually worked on live

[druidbob]

Originally Posted by wuanahto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the prepatch?

Yeah I guess I'm just remembering there being a larger gap between the gnome sk / halfling Ranger update and the launch of Luclin. It really is a shame those won't be added to p99, since technically it was the last content update of velious.

[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I recall thinking if i didnt have my spellbook in my invent i couldnt cast spells. I dont even know what book it was i had. On many CRs i would not even sit to open spellbook untill i got to my body.

I believe one of my hilarious friends told me that and is still laughing.

I finally did work it out. I was so fucking gullible.

That's how it worked in ultima online- you had to physically have your spellbook on you to cast the spells inscribed in it. But you could also buy\trade full spellbooks, so somebody else could put in the work of filling one up with every spell and then sell them. They were one of the few items that stayed with you if you died, so you couldn't kill somebody and loot their spellbook, but you could buy it from them. God I miss that game.

But there also weren't classes, just a bunch of skills and a max number of skill points you could have. I'd love an EQ-UO hybrid emu server so much, where it's EQ engine and zones with a pure skill based system.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's the opposite. Ac actually worked on live

I'd imagine mob AC doesn't work classicly either so maybe that's why he feels the mob's are softer?

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd imagine mob AC doesn't work classicly either so maybe that's why he feels the mob's are softer?

I could be wrong here but from what I understand it is the same mechanic but it seems they didn't have the stats for all mobs so they had to tune that. How AC works is well documented on eqemu and it was tested and it works the same here.