A Question to those with multiple 60s

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

canni dancing is 100% not required to play shaman

It's required to play with maximum efficiency, most especially before Torpor.

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I liked my shaman but canni as a mechanic fucking sucks and pretty much single handedly made me never want to play a shaman again. It should have been a lich form type thing

A single huge HP/MP conversion with a significant recharge time or placing that effect over 4 ticks is the way to do it. It gets so tiresome to hear the sound of the spell so much.

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It isn't the dance that killed me it was the sheer number of times you have to hit Canni 3 + GCD to get down there. Canni 4 is such a breath of fresh air.

It sucks in groups when you're buffing etc, and there's no enchanter. I parsed my actions as a shaman in group while levelling with Canni 3, and 75% of my actions were evenly split between casting Cannibalize and using Shrunken Goblin GCD reset.

Solo, it's much different - it's more of an actual dance when you're tanking a mob, you need mana to DoT, have to plan how many Canni 4 you need to cast a Torpor, etc.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It isn't the dance that killed me it was the sheer number of times you have to hit Canni 3 + GCD to get down there. Canni 4 is such a breath of fresh air.

Can you automate this with a macro? Can't recall if something like that is legal on P99 or not

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you automate this with a macro? Can't recall if something like that is legal on P99 or not

https://youtu.be/7K7oSx2vplg?feature=shared

This is how I canni dance. I dance every other tick using a Macro. You just need to click the macro once and then click your GCD item once between the first and second canni cast. Two buttons every 12 seconds. This works for canni 1, 2, and 3. You can squeeze two canni's in between one tick, so you don't have to try and cast canni once per tick.

Details are in the video description, but I'll copy them here:

This is the macro I am using:

/stand
/pause 1
/pause 21, /cast 1
/pause 21, /cast 1
/sit

After the first cast of Cannibalize, hit your GCD item so you can Cannibalize the second time. Do not worry if you are a bit too slow or fizzle. Just wait until the next dance, as you see in my video. I am pressing 1 to start the macro, and then pressing 2 as soon as the first Cannibalize finishes casting.

This will work for Cannibalize 1, 2, and 3. It will not work for Cannibalize 4 due to the slower cast time.

If you look in the video, I have my inventory UI up. This is so I can watch the HP/Mana number for the tick change, rather than my health/mana/stamina bar at the top right. This is because the tick usually occurs initially as a +1 to Mana, rather than the full amount. This means your percentage bar is not very accurate when gauging the tick, because getting only +1 to mana will probably not change the percentage. Usually when you see the number go up by 1, that means the tick has occurred, even if the number is inaccurate at the time.

Finally, make sure Cannibalize is in your top spell slot. The top spell slot is special, because it will refresh instantly, instead of waiting for the spell cooldown to finish. This does not mean you can get around the spell cooldown (you will get a red message if you try to do this with spells that have a long cooldown), but it does mean you can start casting the spell simultaneously while the cooldown is counting down. As long as the spell cast finishes after the cooldown finishes, the game will allow you to cast the spell. This means the trick only really works for spells that have a short cooldown, and luckily Cannibalize is one of those spells.

[zelld52]

real shaman just canni down without sitting and then bind wound up just saying xD

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's required to play with maximum efficiency, most especially before Torpor.

Nothing you're going to be doing before Torpor requires playing at max efficiency.

You're just a dumb dumb "on paper" tryhard. Next.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing you're going to be doing before Torpor requires playing at max efficiency.

Yes it does. You will not be able to keep the maximum number of spawns camped without full mana efficiency, whether that means solo or in terms of what a group will be able to do depending on your mana. And during certain chaotic pulls, having the mana for an extra heal or not can mean the difference between life and death.

It's not "required" by anyone for any class to play the best, people can go at their own pace, but it's always a difference in the power ceiling a character will have. I like to maximize my efficiency, it often feels bad to do less. It also feels bad to canni dance constantly, or just to spam canni in general. A lose-lose scenario for playing a Shaman, but there are countless things in the game that can be designed better.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://youtu.be/7K7oSx2vplg?feature=shared

This is how I canni dance. I dance every other tick using a Macro. You just need to click the macro once and then click your GCD item once between the first and second canni cast. Two buttons every 12 seconds. This works for canni 1, 2, and 3. You can squeeze two canni's in between one tick, so you don't have to try and cast canni once per tick.

Details are in the video description, but I'll copy them here:

Interesting thanks. Can you macro the GCD into that somehow (i.e., one click of macro does canni, GCD, and second canni)? Or is that getting into illegal on P99 range

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interesting thanks. Can you macro the GCD into that somehow (i.e., one click of macro does canni, GCD, and second canni)? Or is that getting into illegal on P99 range

No problem!

As far as I know you can't macro a clickie sadly. I 100% hope I am wrong on that, but so far I haven't found a way to do so that is legally allowed.

[magethis]

easiest to level would have to be whatever was needed most in a group setting, so basically any of the priest classes, including a bard

hardest to level would be any off-race melee class, like a human SK, or some kind of elf warrior instead of ogre for both

and of course the most fun is the necro and the mage, not too much pressure in a group and can solo just fine