Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo

[Duik]

However we think EQ should be or what you believe were the developers intentions this is/tries to be a representation of what was released and patched over the months/years. It promises no more or less.

Sscalez, well done. If you good enuf to get a boss down to the point that all that is needed is a few pot clicks or a reaper, you've done better than 90% (dunno, just pulled that number outta my arse) of the current pop.

Zuranthium, It is a fantasy game with magic potions and invisible armor clickable from items for goodness sake. Lighten up buddy, you may blow some kind of (IRL) valve.

[Tewaz]

Zuranthium been shitting up these forums with terrible takes for over a decade. Don't feed the troll.

The funny part is he actually thinks there is a perfect MMO out there where most of his vast and well documented needs are fulfilled.

Does he play that game or post on their forums? Probably not. Does he choose to gatekeep Brad's original vision with an energy only matched by some boomer dressed in revolutionary cosplay and white New Balances on the steps of congress in 2009 crying bout "Income tax isn't in the constitution"?

Yes, yes he does.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

His only comment was on snare duration, so perhaps he stopped watching before the fight started.

There's something very wrong with your brain. How is commenting on snare lasting so long (aka, for an entire sit-and-heal session plus the entire time it took to kill the king) an indication that someone didn't watch something.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am willing to bet more people agree with the solo artist challenge ruleset than your ruleset. If you want to change that, build your own ruleset

"My" ruleset is already something the majority of people are doing, as that's the actual reality of playing the game solo for them. Which includes the popular solo self-found ruleset. When the typical player asks "what will I be able to do solo with X class when I start on this server", the relevant answer is what they can do without outside buffs and consumables. And plenty of people already approach the solo artist challenges in that way, you're just ignorant about it.

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The funny part is he actually thinks there is a perfect MMO out there where most of his vast and well documented needs are fulfilled.

Clearly there isn't.

Weird shitpost from you, acting like it's strange that people want better game design.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's something very wrong with your brain. How is commenting on snare lasting so long (aka, for an entire sit-and-heal session plus the entire time it took to kill the king) an indication that someone didn't watch something.

Baseless character attacks again. You just look silly. You should have congratulated OP for the kill you were asking for, a kill without potions. You also kept talking about consumables after posting the video, when they were no longer relevant to the thread. Your lack of comment on the relevant parts of the video is strange.

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"My" ruleset is already something the majority of people are doing, as that's the actual reality of playing the game solo for them. Which includes the popular solo self-found ruleset. When the typical player asks "what will I be able to do solo with X class when I start on this server", the relevant answer is what they can do without outside buffs and consumables. And plenty of people already approach the solo artist challenges in that way, you're just ignorant about it.

You still haven't shown any evidence that you have done any mob on the solo artist challenge list. OP and myself have shown video evidence.

The ignorance is from yourself, as you didn't seem to read the solo challenge artist page:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge

The categories, in descending order of awesomeness:

[S] -> Soloed with self buffs only

[S-] -> Soloed but used strong item clickies

[S*] -> Soloed without pull (or invis pulled)

[S*-] -> Soloed without pull and used strong item clickies

[D] -> Duoed

[D-] -> Duoed but used strong item clickies

[D*] -> Duoed without pull (or invis pulled)

[D*-] -> Duoed without pull and used strong item clickies

[T] -> Trioed

"Clickies"
Strong item clickies include Puppet Strings, Donal's Chestplate of Mourning, Manastone, SoulFire, Reaper of the Dead, Wooly Spider Silk Net, etc., but not shaman potions or stuff like a Shrunken Goblin Skull Earring. Use your judgement, and remember: solo is solo for the purposes of ranks, no matter what you items you use. Pull help is meant to compensate for removal of invis pulls; it doesn't seem fair to penalize people who started on the challenge afterwards. Pull help is only available for Solo God/Duo GM ranks and up, mainly because many of those would be obviously impossible otherwise. Use common sense regarding the amount of help you can get from other players and still consider it a solo kill. In general the idea is that you could zone in and kill the mob on your own. Outside buffs are not permitted for casters; melee can get as many buffs as they like as they are already at a considerable disadvantage. Any kill, even the lowly S*-, will count towards a rank.

Your two complaints in this thread were about buffs and consumables, both of which are already covered in the solo artist challenge wiki page.

Please don't use this logic again, as it applies to yourself as well. There are people who disagree with your opinions on consumables.

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah arbitrary, that's exactly your dialogue. You don't set the definitions of things, nor does that random wiki page. There are people who are interested in being able to solo without consumables, get that through your thick head.

[vales]

please don't turn this into a 40+ page thread like the druid thread

begging all of you to just leave well enough alone and resist replying

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by vales [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

please don't turn this into a 40+ page thread like the druid thread

begging all of you to just leave well enough alone and resist replying

If you want this to stop, yourself and other posters need to be more agressive about calling out people who bloat threads with attacks, trolling, and off topic nonsense. Posters like Zuranthium and Samoht are the cause of this. If they didn't derail the thread, other posters like myself, OP, Shovelquest, etc., wouldn't need to respond to them.

Reposting OP's awesome video so it doesn't get lost:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The ignorance is from yourself, as you didn't seem to read the solo challenge artist page:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge

Keep in mind what it says on the very page you're telling others to read:

The original Solo Artist Challenge was started in this forum thread by Loraen

In other words, there's nothing magical or authoritative about the challenge: it was quite literally created by ordinary players, in this very same forum. I think the time they spent discussing it led to something valuable (which is why I made the wiki page) ... but, you also have to remember: that discussion started in 2012. It not only pre-dates Green ... it predates Velious!

If people want to follow the challenge's rules, I think it's awesome, because I created the page to encourage exactly that. But don't forget that the server has changed a lot since: we have multiple "self-found" guilds now, when there wasn't even a coordinated group of "solo self-founders" back in 2012.

If Zura (or anyone else) thinks there's a better solo standard, maybe they're right and maybe they're wrong ... but the existence of a thirteen-year old thread (copied into the wiki) doesn't invalidate their argument.

[Samoht]

In this thread: DSM attacks other people

Also in this thread: DSM complaining about people attacking him

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Keep in mind what it says on the very page you're telling others to read:



In other words, there's nothing magical or authoritative about the challenge: it was quite literally created by ordinary players, in this very same forum. I think the time they spent discussing it led to something valuable (which is why I made the wiki page) ... but, you also have to remember: that discussion started in 2012. It not only pre-dates Green ... it predates Velious!

If people want to follow the challenge's rules, I think it's awesome, because I created the page to encourage exactly that. But don't forget that the server has changed a lot since: we have multiple "self-found" guilds now, when there wasn't even a coordinated group of "solo self-founders" back in 2012.

If Zura (or anyone else) thinks there's a better solo standard, maybe they're right and maybe they're wrong ... but the existence of a thirteen-year old thread (copied into the wiki) doesn't invalidate their argument.

I am not sure where you saw me claim the solo artist challenge was "magical".

My point is indeed that the solo artist challenge was created and used by players. Players that disagree with Zuranthium's opinions.

I am countering Zuranthium's insistence that his opinions on consumables are the ones OP needs to follow.

I've told Zuranthium already that he should create his own ruleset and post some awesome videos of him doing his challenges to lead by example. He simply won't do it.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In this thread: DSM attacks other people

Also in this thread: DSM complaining about people attacking him

You attacked me first, the post history is quite clear. I didn't attack anyone, I just defended myself from attacks. Lying and playing victim just makes you look silly when the evidence is so clear.