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Old 07-03-2025, 12:45 AM
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Nobody has "their own page" in this matter. It's a community page, meant to reflect the way people play the game and what people find valuable. I am not interested in creating my own challenge page and I do not agree with the placing of many of the current listed MOBs. Stop trying to edit the wiki with wrong info.
Plenty of people have their own pages. Check the guides section. I have my own guide, the link is in my signature. Use your own guide instead of trying to force your changes on the community page that breaks the hall of fame page.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Zuranth...tist_challenge

I never edited the wiki with wrong info. Seriously stop lying. I am just undoing edits by yourself and samoht that are done without thinking to win an argument. You aren't being respectful at all.

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That page is very out of date and doesn't reflect tons of people who should be on it. The old ranks can be written on that old page, not that anyone cares. The ranks aren't even used for the majority there, only for a handful of individual kills, and the classes used aren't even listed in those instances.
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Reposting OP's epic video where he kills Fungi King solo with his monk, no consumables:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge

It deserves the highest ranking of [S] when following the solo artist challenge wiki page.
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Old 07-03-2025, 01:48 AM
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You aren't being respectful at all.
Indeed you aren't. Once again, NOBODY agrees with you that there are only two ways of playing EQ and doing challenges. Nor that a wiki page should be kept outdated. A wiki page that specifically says it needs to be updated, that the community already wanted updated over a decade ago.

Stop trying to alter a community page to something that does not reflect the community.

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I never edited the wiki with wrong info.
Yes you did. You are trying to put my name on an article that does not reflect my opinions and attempting to say that others don't recognize the existence of more tiers. Both false.
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Old 07-03-2025, 01:52 AM
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Indeed you aren't. Once again, NOBODY agrees with you that there are only two ways of playing EQ and doing challenges. Nor that a wiki page should be kept outdated. A wiki page that specifically says it needs to be updated, that the community already wanted updated over a decade ago.

Stop trying to alter a community page to something that does not reflect the community.
You are just lying about my position again. I never said there are only two ways to play or do challenges. Nor did I say the wiki page can never be edited. You and Samoht are the only ones here actually editing the community page. I am just undoing your changes while you are editing the wiki to win an argument, rather than trying to actually trying to improve it.

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Yes you did. You are trying to put my name on an article that does not reflect my opinions and attempting to say that others don't recognize the existence of more tiers. Both false.
I literally just copied the solo artist challenge page with your edits. Are you saying your own edits... do not reflect your opinions? This is absurd lol.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Zuranth...tist_challenge
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Old 07-03-2025, 02:05 AM
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I literally just copied the solo artist challenge page with your edits. Are yoi saying your own edits... do not reflect your opinions? This is absurd lol.
What's absurd is your lack of reading comprehension, as usual.

The solo artist page does not reflect how I would rank each NPC encounter. There is currently no community desire to change that aspect of the page, but there IS very clearly a desire to see a more accurate and representative tier list. Hence, the tier list has been changed to the exact different ways of doing challenges that the community has engaged in. In the future there might be a desire for even more tiers, such as a solo self-found tier for people who have completed challenges with worse gear.
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Old 07-03-2025, 02:13 AM
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What's absurd is your lack of reading comprehension, as usual.

The solo artist page does not reflect how I would rank each NPC encounter. There is currently no community desire to change that aspect of the page, but there IS very clearly a desire to see a more accurate and representative tier list. Hence, the tier list has been changed to the exact different ways of doing challenges that the community has engaged in. In the future there might be a desire for even more tiers, such as a solo self-found tier for people who have completed challenges with worse gear.
You need to chill out. It's a copy of the solo challenge artist page. Everyone can see that. Nobody thinks you wrote the whole thing. It's just a template for you to get started on your own solo challenge list. You clearly have a lot of issues with the existing page. You can edit it however you want.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Zuranth...tist_challenge

No, there isn't a clear desire to see your specific changes added to the community page. Nor do they make the wiki page more clear. What you are calling "consumables" were already clearly defined in the old version of the page. You are also very vague about things like what "moderate" usage is, for example.
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Old 07-03-2025, 02:32 AM
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No, there isn't a clear desire to see your specific changes added to the community page.
Yes there is. This thread alone has shown dozens of people stating there needs to be more differentiation, and the community factually doing challenges in these different ways already speaks for itself. The entire point of the wiki page is to recognize those achievements. The initial guidelines written there over a decade ago, by a single person, when people were already saying they wanted more differentiation, was never some set-in-stone thing. Until you recognize that fact, you're doing nothing but trolling.
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Old 07-03-2025, 02:41 AM
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Yes there is.
No, there isn't. Your changes aren't clear, and don't enhance the page in a meaningful way. You are just confusing people by saying things like "moderate" usage of consumable items.

Nobody knows what this means. You are just making the page more vague, which makes it harder for people to rank themselves.

Is "moderate" 5 charges of a Wort Pot? 9 charges? Nobody knows. It will end up being litigated thread by thread, like what you tried to do here by diminishing OP's accomplishments.
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Old 07-03-2025, 03:00 AM
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You are just confusing people by saying things like "moderate" usage of consumable items. Nobody knows what this means.
Nobody is confused, and it's specifically written in the guide section. Use of consumables should be less impactful than using a "strong item" clicky, otherwise it's the same thing as using that tier of items. Soulfire click is in the "strong item" category and anyone with a brain realizes that using potions to heal the same amount should be treated no different.
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Nobody is confused, and it's specifically written in the guide section. Use of consumables should be less impactful than using a "strong item" clicky, otherwise it's the same thing as using that tier of items. Soulfire click is in the "strong item" category and anyone with brain realizes that using potions to heal the same amount should be treated no different.
How many wort pot clicks is a "moderate" use? Your changes don't say. I don't know what you mean.

How about Bladestopper? How many charges of that is "moderate"?
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Old 07-03-2025, 03:18 AM
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How many wort pot clicks is a "moderate" use? Your changes don't say. I don't know what you mean.
It does say. I literally wrote it out in the post you quoted. Get better nutrition and more exercise to increase blood flow to the brain or something.

The existing rules already banned Soulfire from the higher tier. Soulfire is a complete heal, for anyone who didn't know (everyone knew). Use of healing potions should be less than a complete heal on your character, otherwise it's obviously no different than using a "strong clicky".
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