Blue/Green Merge 2025 - The time has come

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they merge the servers people will have to find something new to complain about, ever thought of that? You have no idea of the consequences.

That could have a profound impact on the forum meta.

[zelld52]

I suppose nobody realizes how involved a merge process would be.

Some simple problems off the top of my head:
- How do you reconcile accounts that have more than 10 characters across both servers?
- How do you reconcile names that are the same on both servers?

Let alone, all of the other database merge issues that a 100% volunteer staff would have to deal with.

[Agrimir]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I suppose nobody realizes how involved a merge process would be.

Some simple problems off the top of my head:
- How do you reconcile accounts that have more than 10 characters across both servers?
- How do you reconcile names that are the same on both servers?

Let alone, all of the other database merge issues that a 100% volunteer staff would have to deal with.

This is literally the first time anyone has brought this up. Thank you!

[cd288]

It's not the first time anyone has brought it up because the staff literally addressed both of those things.

1. First, you can't duplicate a name on Green unless you create that character on the SAME account that has that character on Blue. To the extent you did duplicate your Blue char's name on Green, the staff already said an X would be added to the end of the Green char's name. This is exactly how they did it on live and is extremely simple and easy to do.

2. The staff already issued a warning at the beginning of Green that the Titanium client UI has limitations where it can only show 8 chars at character select. If you merged and your account has more than 8 chars, the ones lower down alphabetically still exist, but you just cant see them on the char select screen. So you'd have to delete some higher up the list to get those to show up. The staff were VERY clear that this was completely at your own risk...i.e., accounts are free so if you are going to be creating more than 8 characters across Blue and Green you should make sure that no account has more than 8 characters on it in the aggregate. They were very clear that there's nothing they are aware of that they can do about this issue and if you ignored the warning then that was your problem when the servers merge.

All of this has been addressed. A merge process isn't crazily involved (look at how quick any easy the Green/Teal split and then merge was). That's not what's making them not make a new server right now.

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of this has been addressed. A merge process isn't crazily involved (look at how quick any easy the Green/Teal split and then merge was). That's not what's making them not make a new server right now.

Pretty sure P99 had more volunteer staff back then, to handle a merge that had 3 months worth of players in it. But Green's been around almost 6 years now, and the staff has dwindled. Can you imagine how many name change petitions the 100% volunteer staff would have to go through?

[Findlyn]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure P99 had more volunteer staff back then, to handle a merge that had 3 months worth of players in it. But Green's been around almost 6 years now, and the staff has dwindled. Can you imagine how many name change petitions the 100% volunteer staff would have to go through?

Sounds like a lot of issues on the server, like this, comes down to that it sounds like they need to bring on more CSR's. If they plan to keep this perpetually running, then they should also be recruiting/training new csr's every so often. CSR's will eventually quit p99 altogether, or at least their roles as csr. I hope this has been brought up before, but seems like poor planning for long term not trying to keep a healthy staff of volunteer CSRs

[cd288]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure P99 had more volunteer staff back then, to handle a merge that had 3 months worth of players in it. But Green's been around almost 6 years now, and the staff has dwindled. Can you imagine how many name change petitions the 100% volunteer staff would have to go through?

Huh? There won't be petitions. They'll literally just add an X to the name for you.

A server merge is extremely simple and not highly technical at all. Literally one person could do it.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Findlyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like a lot of issues on the server, like this, comes down to that it sounds like they need to bring on more CSR's. If they plan to keep this perpetually running, then they should also be recruiting/training new csr's every so often. CSR's will eventually quit p99 altogether, or at least their roles as csr. I hope this has been brought up before, but seems like poor planning for long term not trying to keep a healthy staff of volunteer CSRs

They do this. I don't think any of us here are tracking the number now vs back then.

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Huh? There won't be petitions. They'll literally just add an X to the name for you.

A server merge is extremely simple and not highly technical at all. Literally one person could do it.

Yeah, youre right allseeing soothsayer. Nobody playing is going to submit a forum petition because they don't want the X at the end of their name

"I don't want the name Cd288sucksX i want it to be Cd288blows"

[cd288]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, youre right allseeing soothsayer. Nobody playing is going to submit a forum petition because they don't want the X at the end of their name

"I don't want the name Cd288sucksX i want it to be Cd288blows"

You can't change your name on P99 unless the staff requires you to due to a violation of the naming policy. So your point is moot.

And again, this is how duplicative names were handled on live. It's classic.