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Old 07-07-2025, 02:29 PM
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Oh no, I'm well aware of your backwards ass logic that somehow equates having buffs to the same thing as having multiple characters fighting the mob. We all know what a disingenuous and just plain false argument this is.
Yeah because receiving raid buffs from outside your group before your attempt is more similar to a PL than a solo. Nothing backwards about it.
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Old 07-07-2025, 02:36 PM
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Yeah because receiving raid buffs from outside your group before your attempt is more similar to a PL than a solo. Nothing backwards about it.
This statement wreaks of pettiness and envy. So now, when confronted by basic logic, you have switched your stance to, "Uhh well its closer to a PL than a solo". Do you think that people don't get outside buffs when soloing? You're just lumping yourself in with the other retard in this thread, Zuranthium. Which, trust me, is not a good look.
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Old 07-07-2025, 02:43 PM
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This statement wreaks of pettiness and envy. So now, when confronted by basic logic, you have switched your stance to, "Uhh well its closer to a PL than a solo".
Switched, no, there was no switch. That was my argument all along. I included the quote above. This isn't a solo because it's a group effort. Buffing without being on the hate list is still buffing. It's no more solo than being PLed.

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Do you think that people don't get outside buffs when soloing?
Like I said, if you're doing this for XP, it is a PL. It couldn't be more clear.

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You're just lumping yourself in with the other retard in this thread, Zuranthium. Which, trust me, is not a good look.
It's hard to argue with that, but it could be worse. You could be trying to lump me in with DSM, but chose that one for yourself.
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Old 07-07-2025, 02:45 PM
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Switched, no, there was no switch. That was my argument all along. I included the quote above. This isn't a solo because it's a group effort. Buffing without being on the hate list is still buffing. It's no more solo than being PLed.



Like I said, if you're doing this for XP, it is a PL. It couldn't be more clear.



It's hard to argue with that, but it could be worse. You could be trying to lump me in with DSM, but chose that one for yourself.
You still haven't adressed the math.

This is OP's Magelo:

https://wiki.project1999.com/index.p...ntro=&section=

This is OP's video discussed in this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

From OP's video, the fight was ~110 seconds long before Fungi King started running.

6500 damage / 110 seconds = ~59 DPS from Fungi King to OP.

This is OP's DPS parse:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...97546521145bb&

OP was doing 124 DPS.

Does everybody agree with these two DPS numbers? This is OP with VoG + Aego + FoS.
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Old 07-07-2025, 02:50 PM
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You still haven't adressed the math.

This is OP's Magelo:

https://wiki.project1999.com/index.p...ntro=&section=

This is OP's video discussed in this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

From OP's video, the fight was ~110 seconds long before Fungi King started running.

6500 damage / 110 seconds = ~59 DPS from Fungi King to OP.

This is OP's DPS parse:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...97546521145bb&

Stryker85 was doing 124 DPS.

Does everybody agree with these two DPS numbers? This is OP with VoG + Aego + FoS.
Is there a way to fast forward through this bullshit and make you get to the point?
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Old 07-07-2025, 02:54 PM
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Switched, no, there was no switch. That was my argument all along. I included the quote above. This isn't a solo because it's a group effort. Buffing without being on the hate list is still buffing. It's no more solo than being PLed.

Like I said, if you're doing this for XP, it is a PL. It couldn't be more clear.

It's hard to argue with that, but it could be worse. You could be trying to lump me in with DSM, but chose that one for yourself.
This argument is just plain false and extremely disingenuous. So let me get this straight: You think that someone buffing you, and then you proceed to go solo a camp or mob(s) is the same thing as being power leveled?? Clearly you have not been power leveled before. Buffing someone one time every few hours is not the same thing as power leveling them. You are literally the first person I've EVER heard try to claim that.

Power leveling involves keep the person healed, constant damage shields, and/or taking damage for them. Buffing someones with an HP buff or haste is not the same thing as power leveling them, if they are doing all of the fighting themselves. The fact that you are trying to argue against this just proves how petty you are. Please reconsider your flawed logic.
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Old 07-07-2025, 02:58 PM
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You are literally the first person I've EVER heard try to claim that.
You haven't been reading this thread at all have you. There have been many posters with opinions on both sides. It is your argument that is disingenuous here:

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Power leveling involves keep the person healed, constant damage shields, and/or taking damage for them. Buffing someones with an HP buff or haste not the same thing as power leveling them, if they are doing all of the fighting themselves. The fact that you are trying to argue against this just proves how petty you are. Please reconsider your flawed logic.
It is not my logic that is flawed. You are focused so much on me arguing that it is like being power leveled that you're moving the goal posts. It is easy to prove that you're not being PLed. But it is not easy to prove that you could do this without outside buffs.
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Old 07-07-2025, 03:00 PM
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If you guys could go this hard on fusion so we could finally get that technology, that'd be great.
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Old 07-07-2025, 03:00 PM
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You haven't been reading this thread at all have you. There have been many posters with opinions on both sides. It is your argument that is disingenuous here:

It is not my logic that is flawed. You are focused so much on me arguing that it is like being power leveled that you're moving the goal posts. It is easy to prove that you're not being PLed. But it is not easy to prove that you could do this without outside buffs.
That might be even more stupid than your solo VS PL argument. You must not understand how this game works if you really think I can't solo it without raid buffs.

You do realize I can fight the king for 15+ minutes straight using consumables, right?? Do you honestly think I can't kill it in 15 minutes with drinking 40+ worts and a Reaper?? No one can be THAT stupid, surely you must be trolling...
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Old 07-07-2025, 03:05 PM
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You do realize I can fight the king for 15+ minutes straight using consumables, right?? Do you honestly not think I can't kill it in 15 minutes with drinking 40+ worts and a Reaper??
I'm not the one posting to claim that I did it, tho. You did. Your claim is proven to be factually incorrect at this point, and I'm still waiting for the solo kill to be posted.
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