Head of Skargus

[Zemekes]

I find it incredibly frustrating that the Head of Skargus from the Angry Goblin roll can be MQ'ed. Scout roll is made so you win the roll and get the item right on the spot. Why can't Head of Skargus be non-MQ'ed as well? It's frustrating enough getting a chance at the roll, let alone winning against 20+ people. The number of people competing for the roll never wanes because of this. If anything it gets bigger. Anyone else feel this way?

[Wakanda]

TBF it’s not classic to have a Regal Band of Balthezid. I remember when the item was added to the game how absurd it was because virtually everyone I know regularly raided Chardok and the notion of us not being KOS, let alone ally, wasn’t really a thing.

Not to mention… when did the revamp even happen? Like a week before Luclin launched? The item should be removed from the game and anyone caught wearing it should be banned for cheating / exploiting.

[Wakanda]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TBF it’s not classic to have a Regal Band of Balthezid. I remember when the item was added to the game how absurd it was because virtually everyone I know regularly raided Chardok and the notion of us not being KOS, let alone ally, wasn’t really a thing.

Not to mention… when did the revamp even happen? Like a week before Luclin launched? The item should be removed from the game and anyone caught wearing it should be banned for cheating / exploiting.

Also not just raided Chardok, but the pipeline for leveling, the actual literal meta, was Sarnak Fort in LOIO. Lots of high levels also camped the Sarnaks for the earrings etc. Ally to Sarnaks = super not classic.

[loramin]

The thing people might not realize is that the Chardok revamp was released in October 2001 ... just two months before Luclin (December 2001)! The ring, the SWC, and the revamped Chardok loot are all basically Luclin-era, on a server dedicated to Classic through Velious.

They existed for only two months on live (before everyone went to Luclin), but here they're high-end loot that's available forever: of course it feels unclassic! You would almost never see someone wearing a Sarnak Battle Shield on live, or see even two people interested in doing the Chardok quest at once, but here we have dozens rolling for Shady/Angry and the SBS is standard gear for several classes.

All that being said, I think the staff made the right call, because once the server hits this point in the timeline it needs more stuff to do. Revamped Chardok is a more interesting to kill in, folks have another reason to do Droga besides the essence earring, Shady/Angry are server events ... and none of the loot is so powerful that it really feels out of line.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You would almost never see someone wearing a Sarnak Battle Shield on live

My guild used to raid for that item in a mysterious terrifying zone and I see it in my nightmares still.

Now its a group/solo zone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Zemekes]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TBF it’s not classic to have a Regal Band of Balthezid. I remember when the item was added to the game how absurd it was because virtually everyone I know regularly raided Chardok and the notion of us not being KOS, let alone ally, wasn’t really a thing.

Not to mention… when did the revamp even happen? Like a week before Luclin launched? The item should be removed from the game and anyone caught wearing it should be banned for cheating / exploiting.

Since it does exist, it would be nice to have a simple change in the way the quest is done. No MQ, and then we no longer have people with 100 alts and millions of plat gatekeeping.

[WarpathEQ]

Its part of a multi tiered quest so making it non-MQable would do literally 0. It would just mean people would do the MQ before or after that step. No different than what we see happening with Ring 8, people either sell ring 7 MQ and then you just have to show up for a roll (increasing the number of rollers, one of the concerns you are trying to prevent) or sell ring 8 completed as an MQ component to get a ring 9.

So eliminating Skargus MQ would just create an economy of ring 1/ring 2 MQs, add to the amount of rollers at Angry (anyone who buys an MQ now will be attending rolls with the proposed change).

Any change that has no impact to the supply or demand of an item is meaningless.

[Zemekes]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its part of a multi tiered quest so making it non-MQable would do literally 0. It would just mean people would do the MQ before or after that step. No different than what we see happening with Ring 8, people either sell ring 7 MQ and then you just have to show up for a roll (increasing the number of rollers, one of the concerns you are trying to prevent) or sell ring 8 completed as an MQ component to get a ring 9.

So eliminating Skargus MQ would just create an economy of ring 1/ring 2 MQs, add to the amount of rollers at Angry (anyone who buys an MQ now will be attending rolls with the proposed change).

Any change that has no impact to the supply or demand of an item is meaningless.

Can't MQ step one as it's just turning in skins. Drusila and Sinew are MQ's but those can still be earned without rolling. My complaint is /ran 1000 rolls ONLY. If scout is non MQ, then Angry Goblin should also be non MQ.

[WarpathEQ]

Originally Posted by Zemekes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can't MQ step one as it's just turning in skins. Drusila and Sinew are MQ's but those can still be earned without rolling. My complaint is /ran 1000 rolls ONLY. If scout is non MQ, then Angry Goblin should also be non MQ.

Its a moot point, while head of skargus MQ technically exists in practice it actually doesn't. Dickheads (probably the same ones that do this to the velious armor mobs) keep dropping free to obtain ring 1s onto the turn in mob so anytime a head of skargus head gets turned in the quest completes with no availability for MQ.

CSR doesn't seem to care at all that players are doing the wrong thing and will do nothing to actually weed out the issue which is now creeping into more and more quest turn in mobs and there is no in game remedy to fix the issue aside from waiting for the rare event where a full server reset occurs. Oh yeah and CSR will provide no support to the player that gets defrauded by these dubious actions either whether you were doing an MQ or not, if your head gets eaten, which it will, you're shit out of luck.

So bad news is now we all get to live in a world where the supply of heads is being further reduced and the demand of heads is being further increased only making the circumstances around angry goblin even worse.

[JayDee]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its a moot point, while head of skargus MQ technically exists in practice it actually doesn't. Dickheads (probably the same ones that do this to the velious armor mobs) keep dropping free to obtain ring 1s onto the turn in mob so anytime a head of skargus head gets turned in the quest completes with no availability for MQ.

CSR doesn't seem to care at all that players are doing the wrong thing and will do nothing to actually weed out the issue which is now creeping into more and more quest turn in mobs and there is no in game remedy to fix the issue aside from waiting for the rare event where a full server reset occurs. Oh yeah and CSR will provide no support to the player that gets defrauded by these dubious actions either whether you were doing an MQ or not, if your head gets eaten, which it will, you're shit out of luck.

So bad news is now we all get to live in a world where the supply of heads is being further reduced and the demand of heads is being further increased only making the circumstances around angry goblin even worse.

Can you turn in some skins to clear the npc?