Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo - Page 111

loramin · #**1101** 07-13-2025, 06:01 PM

In all seriousness ... on page 110 of this particular thread ... you are honestly going to try and argue that rankings are neutral content?

All this bluster, all this fighting ... all because it's not enough for the wiki to have Loraen's rankings on Loraen's page? You feel so strongly that the rankings are neutral, and belong in the neutral part of the wiki ... despite a hundred pages of fighting over what the rankings should be ... that you needed to do all this?

Really?

DeathsSilkyMist · #**1102** 07-13-2025, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In all seriousness ... on page 110 of this particular thread ... you are honestly going to try and argue that rankings are neutral content?

All this bluster, all this fighting ... all because it's not enough for the wiki to have Loraen's rankings on Loraen's page? You feel so strongly that the rankings are neutral, and belong in the neutral part of the wiki ... despite a hundred pages of fighting over what the rankings should be ... that you needed to do all this?

Really?

The rankings have been there for 10+ years. The community did not agree to your opinion that they should be removed. If they agreed with you, the rankings would have been removed already.

loramin · #**1103** 07-13-2025, 06:08 PM

So something old can't be contentious? Is that your argument?

Also, might I remind you that wiki page was created less than six years ago, and for the vast majority of its life it was edited peacefully by genuine people trying to make something good for others (including Loraen himself).

If you and the other children hadn't acted like children, maybe the rankings might have stayed, but as a direct result of your (y'all's? why doesn't English have a plural pronoun for your?) actions they had to be removed.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**1104** 07-13-2025, 06:11 PM

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So something old can't be contentious? Is that your argument?

Also, might I remind you that wiki page was created less than six years ago, and for the vast majority of its life it was edited peacefully by genuine people trying to make something good for others (including Loraen himself I might add).

If you and the other children hadn't acted like children, maybe the rankings might have stayed, but as a direct result of your (y'all's? why doesn't English have a plural pronoun for you?) actions they had to be removed.

The wiki page can be changed with community consensus. That is your opinion as well if I understood you correctly. Consensus was not reached to remove rankings or accept Zuranthium's edits. I am just asking you to literally follow your own standards when you use your admin powers.

loramin · #**1105** 07-13-2025, 06:17 PM

The policy is simple: if it's not clearly neutral content, it doesn't belong on the wiki (except on "personal" pages). I've asked before if you agree with this policy, and you don't answer, so I'll assume you agree it's a good policy.

BTW, your entire context on this off. This was not a museum sculpture that I came and hit with a hammer. I made the page, and it was never meant to be a historical record of Loraen's solo artist challenge! I mean, it literally said as much at the top of the page. Loraen's page (what used to be called the "Kunark version") already has that version.

The point of the page was to serve as a place for interested parties to collaborate and improve on the challenge, eg. by adding Velious mobs. And again, it all worked just fine for years until you arrived and decided it wasn't any of the things I'd said it was. You decided it was the official judge of how people solo their character, and you felt passionately that your opinion had to be the right one, so you and the others edited it, badly.

Again, as a result of your misunderstanding, a fight broke out on that page ... and at that point it was clear the page no longer met wiki policy, because wiki content is not "fight over" content. As soon as it was clear it didn't meet the wiki standards, I removed it.

If you disagree, what part of that specifically do you disagree with?

DeathsSilkyMist · #**1106** 07-13-2025, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The policy is simple: if it's not clearly neutral content, it doesn't belong on the wiki (except on "personal" pages). I've asked before if you agree with this policy, and you don't answer, so I'll assume you agree it's a good policy.

Also, your entire context on this off. This was not a museum sculpture that I came and hit with a hammer. I made the page, and it was never meant to be a historical record of Loraen's solo artist challenge! It said as much at the top of the page! Loraen's page (what used to be called the "Kunark version") already has that version.

The point of the page was to serve as a place for interested parties to collaborate and improve on the challenge, eg. by adding Velious mobs. And again, it all worked just fine for years until you arrived and decided it wasn't any of the things I'd said it was. You decided it was the official judge of how people solo their character, and you felt passionately that your opinion had to be the right one.

Again, as a result of your misunderstanding, a fight broke out on that page ... and at that point it was clear the page no longer met wiki policy, because wiki content is not "fight over" content. As soon as it was clear it didn't meet the wiki standards, I removed it.

If you disagree, what part of that specifically do you disagree with?

I disagree with your idea of "neutral content". The rankings were created 10+ years ago, you just copied them onto the newer page that you literally created.

Why did you allow bad content on the wiki for 10+ years if you think it broke the rules? Why did you copy it into the new page?

loramin · #**1107** 07-13-2025, 06:21 PM

YOU YOURSELF FOUGHT OVER THE RANKS WITH OTHER PEOPLE!

IN WHAT DEFINITION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE COULD YOU POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND THAT TO MEAN "NEUTRAL"!?!?!?!

DeathsSilkyMist · #**1108** 07-13-2025, 06:24 PM

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YOU YOURSELF FOUGHT OVER THE RANKS WITH OTHER PEOPLE!

IN WHAT DEFINITION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE COULD YOU POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND THAT TO MEAN "NEUTRAL"!?!?!?!

Loramin. Can you please read the thread? The people who started fighting with OP over ranks wasn't me. It was Zuranthium and Samoht. I was defending OP from getting trolled, and OP specifically thanked me for defending him.

loramin · #**1109** 07-13-2025, 06:25 PM

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Why did you allow bad content on the wiki for 10+ years if you think it broke the rules? Why did you copy it into the new page?

Jesus H. Christ, you are five years old. I allowed it because A) I'm not omniscient: I don't know what's happening on every wiki page (or even every one I've created), and B) until a bunch of assholes started fighting about it, it was uncontroversial (for ten years).

And as for your last question, I literally answered in my previous post (ie. it's for collaboration). You truly don't even read what I write.

loramin · #**1110** 07-13-2025, 06:26 PM

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Loramin. Can you please read the thread? The people who started fighting with OP over ranks wasn't me. It was Zuranthium and Samoht. I was defending OP from getting trolled, and OP specifically thanked me for defending him.

How does that make it neutral?