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Old 07-14-2025, 10:12 AM
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I suggest Permafrost instead of Unrest. Not only is it empty - but if you're going to run a long distance to get to an exp spot like Unrest, might as well run to Permafrost. It's got a higher ZEM, it's got LEAGUES more spawn points than Unrest - and the goblins drop bricks of ore which sell for a pretty penny. Perma can also take you to around level 30 before you have to change locs.
At what level can you start soloing in perma and is there a vendor that will sell to evil races nearby?
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Old 07-14-2025, 11:18 AM
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At what level can you start soloing in perma and is there a vendor that will sell to evil races nearby?
Depending on gear, between 15-20. The entrance goblins are as low as level 11. It's a pretty straight-forward and easy solo / small group between the entrance and archaeologist from 15-25+. It starts to get a bit dicey 25+ because you have to go inside the caves, where there are alot of priests that heal through walls.

Unfortunately, I don't remember any vendors that will sell to evil. The Barbarian Shaman spell vendor is nearby the Perma zoneline, but he's on Halas faction
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Old 07-14-2025, 11:29 AM
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Depending on gear, between 15-20. The entrance goblins are as low as level 11. It's a pretty straight-forward and easy solo / small group between the entrance and archaeologist from 15-25+. It starts to get a bit dicey 25+ because you have to go inside the caves, where there are alot of priests that heal through walls.

Unfortunately, I don't remember any vendors that will sell to evil. The Barbarian Shaman spell vendor is nearby the Perma zoneline, but he's on Halas faction
Yeah, I don't believe there are any evil vendors in Halas or Evefrost (or Permafrost or Blackburrow). I don't think there's one in Qeynos Hills either, so you're probably looking at running to West Karana or Qeynos (Sewers?).

Of course, another option would just be to stop off at Blackburrow on the way and murder a ton of gnolls (keeping their teeth). A level fifteen could kill gnolls up top fairly quickly, but if it were me I'd head there at level ten or eleven.

Blackburrow is a really great dungeon to do before Permafrost anyway, and it's reasonably safe once you learn it, as long as you stay on the surface or close to the exit tunnel. Once you've spent a few levels there you should no longer be KOS, and then turning in the teeth you've saved might even raise you another faction level beyond that (so you can sell your permafrost loot outside Halas for even more).
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Old 07-14-2025, 02:51 PM
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Yeah I made an innoruuk DE cleric and she's 10 already. Was doing befallen until 12 ish then planned to move to unrest. Blackburrow gets slow at 11 IIRC, I'd have to spend a lot of time in there just to go sell.

Permafrost looked like a great spot to level last I checked but might be simpler to do 12-40 in unrest or stay in befallen and move to najena around 15 then mistmore early/mid 20s. Befallen and najena are about as busy as permafrost but I can sell in neriak. She's somewhat twinked (girdle of rapidity, GCM awaiting a devastator, hp/mana gear) so so far I'm just meleeing stuff down so undead or not, doesn't really matter. Not sure how long it will last though.

Sorry for sort of hijacking the thread.
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Old 07-14-2025, 05:38 PM
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Yeah I made an innoruuk DE cleric and she's 10 already.
I also made a daughter in 2015! They grow up so fast.
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Old 07-15-2025, 10:04 AM
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Old 07-15-2025, 11:16 AM
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Can confirm Permafrost is big struggle for Evil toons vendor options, as mentioned the only vendor in EF won't sell to you without some factioning, you have to do a mix of pelts of the newbie polar bears, bracers off the orcs, and eventually gnoll fangs once you can turn them in to get your faction fixed in order to vendor or access the town. Even then the bank in halas is one of the worst faction scenarios in the game having 3-4 different and challenging to improve factions in the same room, at best there is a path to get non-kos to gaurds and high enough to vendor but even after all that I still had to run all the way to qeynos (and invis, and pay close attention to the pathing wizard GM that was still kos just to bank. Fortunately I experienced all this from a shaman so I atleast was able to use alchemy as a seudo bank to turn the coin into 10 dose potions and consolidate the inventory space.

Add to it that Halas gaurds are KOS to wolf form, so you also don't have a viable tool to work around being kos to get those initial hits.
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Old 07-15-2025, 11:33 AM
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Yeah, I think Permafrost is best for twinks who don't care about loot, and just want a really good ZEM. Bring plenty of food/drink [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 07-15-2025, 12:00 PM
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Yeah. Unrest/mistmoore situation isn't a ton better for evil, you can sell at druid rings IIRC but you can't bank anywhere in faydwer.

Might just hang out in befallen/najena longer than I expected but if you wanted to group, you're basically SOL with those two until you move to COM.
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Old 07-15-2025, 12:06 PM
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Yeah. Unrest/mistmoore situation isn't a ton better for evil, you can sell at druid rings IIRC but you can't bank anywhere in faydwer.

Might just hang out in befallen/najena longer than I expected but if you wanted to group, you're basically SOL with those two until you move to COM.
Yeah the BB druid rings works for selling. That merchant sells to everyone.

You can invis into kelethin and bank on the outside through the window. This works on the banker farthest back in the hut. I do that on my monk. It's far enough away from the patroling guards, so you won't get agro.

You can also bank in Kaladim, as the banker is in a cubby. Just hug the wall to avoid LoS. But if you aren't careful you'll get backstabbed by the rogue trainers lol. At least one of them wanders past the door, and will agro through the door while passing by if I remember right. You need to be sure you aren't in direct line of sight to the door, and be as far away from the door as you can.
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