What makes twinking a caster "great"

[Wakanda]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"worth it to twink" in this order:

enc, necro, druid, shaman

rest is garbage waste of time / plat

I felt more of an advantage twinking my Wizard than my Necromancer. Having a huge mana pool really helped with the AFK play-style. IE. Unload huge mana pool to gain half a level, go AFK for twenty minutes with dark elf hide on, come back to full mana bar, gain half a level in a matter of minutes, and then go AFK for 20 minutes again. I remember leveling my Wizard while working on a lot of outdoor projects. Leveled pretty fast for being AFK 95% of the time.

Also my mana pool was so high I could kill Treants in SK for like 20 minutes straight before having to take a break for mana. Feel like if I wasn't twinked I would have found myself having to regularly meditate after each kill while surrounding players grow increasingly antsy that I'm not able to keep up with the camp etc.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Had an ICB and SCHWs laying around, nothing crazy and put it on a cleric twink along with a whole bunch of basic mana/hp gear. I'm only level 6 and I don't think it will last a long time without a fungi but I've been mowing down even cons and yellows with no downtime.

Throw in a Velium Crystal Staff and you can solo like a melee twink (with undead nukes) until your 40's [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(At that point, the staff proc becomes meaningless and you have to rely on nukes for damage, so you're more like a tanky Wizard.)

Having twinked two Clerics (and then gotten them into the 50's), I'm not sure I could enjoy soloing a Cleric untwinked.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Super late to the party, but I feel like JBOOTS on a Wizard twink would feel like a huge upgrade.

Major QOL for sure and makes quadding so much easier/safer. On live back the my wizard quadded raptors 52-58 with no jboots and it worked out but it would have been insanely easier with them.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Throw in a Velium Crystal Staff and you can solo like a melee twink (with undead nukes) until your 40's [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(At that point, the staff proc becomes meaningless and you have to rely on nukes for damage, so you're more like a tanky Wizard.)

Having twinked two Clerics (and then gotten them into the 50's), I'm not sure I could enjoy soloing a Cleric untwinked.

Sounds fun but for a wizard I was thinking about a darksight dagger which is basically a wurmslayer that's worth pennies on the market. Haste that bish and go to town, no need to wait for procs.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Darksight_Dagger

For a cleric it sounds great but I was farming a devastator which is nice what damage with an ok proc. I was considering dropping the 4kish on skins to faction her for an engraved di'zok deathbringer but it wont proc until 50. 16/22 with 15wis is pretty solid though.

[PatChapp]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Major QOL for sure and makes quadding so much easier/safer. On live back the my wizard quadded raptors 52-58 with no jboots and it worked out but it would have been insanely easier with them.



Sounds fun but for a wizard I was thinking about a darksight dagger which is basically a wurmslayer that's worth pennies on the market. Haste that bish and go to town, no need to wait for procs.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Darksight_Dagger

For a cleric it sounds great but I was farming a devastator which is nice what damage with an ok proc. I was considering dropping the 4kish on skins to faction her for an engraved di'zok deathbringer but it wont proc until 50. 16/22 with 15wis is pretty solid though.

I went with a poisoned wind censor until 30 and then a devastator 30+ so I could use a shield, on my cleric that is
Went really easy,even 40-50 melee + undead nukes in guk.
My Lil lady is a gnome though,so benefits from the 40% haste clicky arms on top of the haste item.
30-40 beating up hags is peak cleric solo

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds fun but for a wizard I was thinking about a darksight dagger which is basically a wurmslayer that's worth pennies on the market. Haste that bish and go to town, no need to wait for procs.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Darksight_Dagger

sounds cool until you realize that even at 60, caster damage cap on weapon is 20

Caster Weapon Damage Cap
|-
Level Range
Weapon DMG Cap
|-
| 1-9 || 6
|-
| 10-19 || 10
|-
| 20-29 || 12
|-
| 30-39 || 18
|-
| 40+ || 20

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds fun but for a wizard I was thinking about a darksight dagger which is basically a wurmslayer that's worth pennies on the market. Haste that bish and go to town, no need to wait for procs.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Darksight_Dagger

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sounds cool until you realize that even at 60, caster damage cap on weapon is 20

Yeah Darksight dagger is a real tease. It's a 20/40 at best.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Sarnak_Backstabber is a better 0.5 ratio weapon for casters than Darksight, and it is already uncapped levels 10+.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sounds cool until you realize that even at 60, caster damage cap on weapon is 20

Caster Weapon Damage Cap
|-
Level Range
Weapon DMG Cap
|-
| 1-9 || 6
|-
| 10-19 || 10
|-
| 20-29 || 12
|-
| 30-39 || 18
|-
| 40+ || 20

Can confirm, I just realized that and it indeed sucks.

I guess it was added post kunark or the rod of annihilation would have never made any sense? I get now why the velium crystal staff is worth that much. Only real viable early options for casters would be sarnak backstabber/di'zok scepter of authority.

PWC and deathbringer also sucks until 20 for priests. GCM is pretty much your best bet for a starter on a budget.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can confirm, I just realized that and it indeed sucks.

I guess it was added post kunark or the rod of annihilation would have never made any sense? I get now why the velium crystal staff is worth that much. Only real viable early options for casters would be sarnak backstabber/di'zok scepter of authority.

PWC and deathbringer also sucks until 20 for priests. GCM is pretty much your best bet for a starter on a budget.

Indeed. Guard Captain Mallet is the way to go from 1-20 on a priest on a budget. Then Poison Wind Censor from at least 20-29. 30-39 Granite Face Grinder (if you are a Shaman) is a very slight upgrade ratio-wise, and it has 10 STR/WIS. Finally 40+ you'd want Herbalist's Spade, unless you didn't want the root proc. But 40+ is when melee starts to get worse for priests, so it may not be worth the money to buy a spade.

Rod of Annihilation is a weird weapon. Not really sure what it's intent was. Perhaps they were debating damage caps internally, and wanted to remove it on the off chance they did improve caster damage caps in a future patch.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can confirm, I just realized that and it indeed sucks.

I guess it was added post kunark or the rod of annihilation would have never made any sense? I get now why the velium crystal staff is worth that much. Only real viable early options for casters would be sarnak backstabber/di'zok scepter of authority.

PWC and deathbringer also sucks until 20 for priests. GCM is pretty much your best bet for a starter on a budget.

Different devs work on different parts, not all are intimately familiar with what everyone else does - ergo item devs end up making items which don't really make sense from a mechanics nor lore perspective. It does make sense from an awesome number go up perspective. Even if it doesn't actually make your number go up. Give it to a low level pet instead :P

[Goregasmic]

I do have a spade but I'm not even sure I want to bother with 2hb for 20-40. Deathbringer has a similar ratio to PWC and is 1hb. Also has +15wis, and allows for shield and its stats. At that point I'd probably keep it until epic.

PWC does set you up for a transition to spade but yeah, at 40 I'm not exactly sure how much I'll be meleeing anymore as I've only considered melee'ing to speed up the early leveling. It's only 500pp anyway, if I feel like I want to keep going melee at 20 I will consider it. Thanks for the suggestions.

VCS sure seems nice but I don't have 14k for that and the farming looks like a major slog.