Velious Solo/Duo Challenge Official Thread (and Trio/Group)

[Zuranthium]

Does anyone know if these have linked aggro, I can't remember:

YOU , SHALL , NOT , PASS

If they social, it's a perfect example of something that's currently trivial most of the time when using non-classic lull, but will become truly challenging when the patch is implemented.

[loramin]

Not disputing that. I'm just questioning whether it's more productive to fight that battle today or tomorrow?

[Duik]

The correct answer is tomorrow.
Zeds answer is full of feelz and emoticons (that i cant render properly) so he'd say. Do it, do it now.

[Tewaz]

Calling me a troll is hilarious.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Calling me a troll is hilarious.

You've now made 4 posts in a thread that is about discussing the specifics of Velious MOBs/locations, and contributed 0 information to the thread.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm just questioning whether it's more productive to fight that battle today or tomorrow?

It's more productive now, so everything doesn't need to be changed in the future. I've already put too much time into putting all of this together and there's still more work to do with getting precise info about some more of the spawns and figuring out exactly how many MOBs should be killed per zone/tier. It's a challenge game anyway; what's interesting about starting all this up and continuing to use the cheat version of lull to do everything? People have already been doing that for 16 years on p99 and we know it's getting changed. Allowing it here would be no different than allowing an exploit.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You've now made 4 posts in a thread that is about discussing the specifics of Velious MOBs/locations, and contributed 0 information to the thread.

People haven't forgotten the thread you recently trolled regarding solo challenges, or the fan fic you made where Sscalez is violently tortured. I'd certainly give you a second chance if you actually apologize and admit you were wrong for attacking Sscalez to the point where he didn't want to post here anymore.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=441516

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=442054

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's more productive now, so everything doesn't need to be changed in the future. I've already put too much time into putting all of this together and there's still more work to do with getting precise info about some more of the spawns and figuring out exactly how many MOBs should be killed per zone/tier. It's a challenge game anyway; what's interesting about starting all this up and continuing to use the cheat version of lull to do everything? People have already been doing that for 16 years on p99 and we know it's getting changed. Allowing it here would be no different than allowing an exploit.

The reality is most people disagree with you on lulls. If nobody follows your challenge, all of your work is wasted. That is less efficient.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's more productive now, so everything doesn't need to be changed in the future.

More productive for you. It's clearly not for anyone else.

When this started I thought you were trying to build community consensus, but it seems that (like another poster here) your real goal is just to impose your opinions on others.

It's too bad, as this community could really use consensus builders. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More productive for you. It's clearly not for anyone else.

When this started I thought you were trying to build community consensus, but it seems that (like another poster here) your real goal is just to impose your opinions on others.

It's too bad, as this community could really use consensus builders. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Loramin finally realized that he has been backing a troll (Zuranthium) the entire time. Loramin abused his admin powers to help this troll (Zuranthium), instead of simply suspending Zuranthium for abusing the wiki. We tried to tell him for 100+ pages that Zuranthium was a troll, and the evidence was quite clear:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=441516

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=442054

It's funny because Loramin did kind of admit they were trolls:

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2) Trolls - these people disagree for illogical reasons. They can't be convinced to change their opinion, because they don't actually believe in it.

Now both Samo and Zura probably fell into category #2 at some point in this thread (I'm too lazy to go back and find examples, but I think I remember it).

But he also accidentally admits that he didn't really read the full thread, so he didn't even have a clear picture of what was happening when he decided to take their side and abuse his admin powers.

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You used a known exploit to kill the dragons in both of these videos. Please stop posting them as any sort of evidence other than you being completely disingenuous in any discussion on these forums.

Samoht is simply grasping at straws, and has no evidence he has done these kills himself. We would all love to see some evidence to back up his trolling, but he has yet to produce any.

A word of warning. When doing Zuranthium/Samoht/Loramin's solo challenge from this thread (it isn't a community effort), expect more posts like this. Similar to the thread linked above, posters like Zuranthium and Samoht simply tear other people down, and discourage people from doing these challenges.

[zelld52]

fuckin stop guys, every forum post you guys enter turns into a back and forth until the original topic gets lost. take a break from forums ffs

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://youtu.be/igpbLuNe0ls?feature=shared - Bravatar solo pull and kill on a Shaman, self buff only.

https://youtu.be/oPxeOVuX0G8?feature=shared - Ionat solo pull and kill on a shaman, self buff only.

You used a known exploit to kill the dragons in both of these videos. Please stop posting them as any sort of evidence other than you being completely disingenuous in any discussion on these forums.