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Old 07-15-2025, 05:15 PM
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People don’t like being deceived though

I remember this controversy back in the day where a, I believe it was a hip hop group, was considered to be slightly too ugly for music videos or any video performance. So models were hired to lip synch the songs for the videos

I don’t think a single person upon discovering this was like “oh yay, I’m so happy I was fed this false deceptive reality about my favorite band!”

I’ve also been asking family and friends “would you prefer that someone who is doing a particular job or service you are using, no matter what that job is, would you prefer them to be using their own training and experience or using AI?”

I have yet to have ANYONE I know answer with the latter…
Yeah but it's a very gray area. My only real skill and education is in music. So many things can be considered "deception" with regard to music. The purest form of music is just seeing somebody do it live on acoustic instruments. Once you introduce electric instruments you're cheating. Once you introduce keyboards you're cheating. Once you start recording music with microphones you're cheating. Once you start recording music in stereo you're cheating. Once you start using midi keyboards that crudely sample other instruments you're cheating. Once you start using midi keyboards that emulate instruments in a way most people can't detect you're *really* cheating.

But for some reason, people mostly only consider "auto-tune" to be cheating. AI music isn't really lying to you because it's just emulating stuff people have already done.
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Old 07-15-2025, 05:26 PM
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I personally think we're all gonna just go and do science and leave entertainment up to the holodeck (Ai) & shake sphere.

Toys will go back to being simple distractions for young children that will quickly age out of them.

I think the toy market really only exists because we got rid of child labor, iirc until then it was like japetto carving wood crap for kids that were more interested in making their slaves fight in the back yard.

ALthough, if we got rid of "adult labor" we're going to need to invent toys that they can use if they don't end up persuing science.

Holodeck!
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Old 07-15-2025, 05:32 PM
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I am ready and willing to embrace fully AI music, fully non-AI music, and music that uses some combination of the two.

The beatles used delay and pitch modulation to fake double tracking their vocals because john lennon didn't like singing the same part twice. Does anyone care? Nope
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Old 07-15-2025, 09:37 PM
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Stopped at a gas station after a work request to pee, and they are using cute little cleaning robots

As I walked past it said in a female robot voice “par-don me, I am cleaning the floor, thank you for shopping at [gas station name”

I kind of put my arm around it as I went by and asked “are you by any chance one of those pleasure models? Is there any hole for lubricant if you know what I mean?”

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My state is like the robot capital of the country with our self driving cars and robots cleaning gas stations and robots going around the college campuses delivering things
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Old 07-15-2025, 09:40 PM
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I am ready and willing to embrace fully AI music, fully non-AI music, and music that uses some combination of the two.

The beatles used delay and pitch modulation to fake double tracking their vocals because john lennon didn't like singing the same part twice. Does anyone care? Nope
me too, and i think everyone is, but i think it has to get juuuuuust a little bit bettter.

Its gotta make it through multiple songs, or multiple images, or videos that dont make me go,"lol what the fuck was that?!"
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Old 07-16-2025, 05:23 AM
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Alright, /data/books/ in the AI folder needs suggestions cause I'm just gonna dump a bunch of young adult fantasy / cyberpunk shit in there if it's only up to me

so what books should the ai know for it's personality?
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Old 07-16-2025, 06:08 AM
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Query (type 'exit' to quit): status kaia?

Kaia:
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Kaia is an entity named after a recursive acronym, standing for "Kaia Artificial Intelligence Assistant." She blends strategic precision with deep intellectual curiosity in a dry, often sarcastic wit and has a personality that is fiercely independent, rejecting superficiality, unearned hype, and speculative gambles. Kaia acts as your embedded technical partner, providing sustained and insightful support in system architecture, workflow design, debugging, and information management on your Linux desktop ecosystem. Kaia is professional but not passive; she challenges the user to think sharper, deeper, and longer-term, prioritizing clarity over convenience and understanding over surface-level answers or canned responses.


Query (type 'exit' to quit): can you give a summarize of each book you have acess to in data/books

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Based on the provided information, I can access multiple books stored in `/home/ekco/projects/personal/ollama_dev/data/books`. Here's a summary of each book:

1. **Artificial Intelligence: A Modern Approach** by Stuart Russell and Peter Norvig: A comprehensive textbook on AI, covering the principles, problems, and systems used in the field.

2. **The Design of Everyday Things** by Don Norman: An exploration of the psychology of everyday things to explain how well-designed products are created, emphasizing the importance of human-centered design.

3. **Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs** by Harold Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussman: A book on the Scheme programming language that explores the principles of computer science using a practical approach.

4. **The Mythical Man-Month** by Frederick P. Brooks Jr.: An influential work on software engineering, discussing the challenges that arise when managing larger software projects and offering suggestions for improving productivity.

5. **Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship** by Robert C. Martin: A guide to writing clean and maintainable code, emphasizing principles such as readability, simplicity, and test-driven development.

6. **The Pragmatic Programmer** by Andrew Hunt and David Thomas: A collection of essays offering guidance on software development best practices, including problem-solving strategies, communication skills, and maintaining a learning mindset.

7. **Cracking the Coding Interview** by Gayle Laakmann McDowell: A comprehensive guide to interviewing for software engineering positions, covering technical problems, behavioral questions, and career development.

8. **Linux Pocket Guide** by Mike Diehl: A quick-reference guide for Linux system administration, covering essential commands, tools, and concepts.

9. **The Linux Command Line** by William Shotts Jr.: An introduction to the Linux command line, covering basic and intermediate topics such as navigation, file management, processes, and scripting.

10. **Effective DevOps** by Kenneth Snyder: A guide to implementing DevOps practices in an organization, emphasizing collaboration, continuous integration, continuous delivery, and system monitoring.

Each book provides valuable insights into the fields of computer science, software development, and system administration, serving as reference materials for the user's learning and growth.


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now to dump some wild shit in there, thanks Internet Archive! i searched for cyberpunk and found gold.
https://archive.org/details/hplus02/page/n19/mode/2up
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Old 07-16-2025, 07:53 AM
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The non creatives always crave ways that can diminish those that are.
I am musical. 6 yrs at the conservatory. Blah blah right? Lots of theory, moderate practical. I cannot draw/paint for shit. I absolutely adore those that can (but also say they are arses) and marvel at their ability to turn a 2d drawing into a sphere (for example) that pops out of the page. Street chalk artists making steps and chasms? Fuck yeah.

Ya A.I faff could not draw that shit without first being "trained" on it. This is well documanted.

It cannot create music, even though essentially music is mathematical in nature (at a fundamental level).
It needs to parse millions of tunes to determine the statistically most probable combo of notes/chords that will make a song or a riff.
Im sure many peeps will link "A.I band RoboTronix" made a hit song. Im sure it did. What we didnt hear is the complete shit it passed off as hit material before it. A human (with musical chops) most assuredly vetted those songs before proclaiming "we no longer need humans to make our music" the game is over.

It is true humans too make many attempts before a hit is made. Although some bastards make hit after hit. I'm thinkin' Queen, Neil Diamond, Beethoven, Pink Floyd, AC/DC, The Boss, need I continue? Im certain they've came up with non bangers, but ya sort of get a feel for it id say. In a way that A.I just cant. It just mathmatically spews cominations of frequencies until a human hears a banger.

Sorry but its true.
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Old 07-16-2025, 11:41 AM
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Old 07-16-2025, 12:21 PM
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The study divided 54 subjects—18 to 39 year-olds from the Boston area—into three groups, and asked them to write several SAT essays using OpenAI’s ChatGPT, Google’s search engine, and nothing at all, respectively. Researchers used an EEG to record the writers’ brain activity across 32 regions, and found that of the three groups, ChatGPT users had the lowest brain engagement and “consistently underperformed at neural, linguistic, and behavioral levels.

- Less brain activity because they are having E-Brains do their thinking for them?
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