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Old 07-21-2025, 09:38 AM
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Haven't they got like 15 out of the last 20 vulaks
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they recently came off of a concede 3 on Vulak for training Good Guys during their encounter, lul.
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Old 07-21-2025, 10:28 AM
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This is the end result of rooted dragons. Unroot dragons, and smaller guilds can compete again. You'd have more small elite guilds instead of just one or two large guilds.

When dragons were unrooted you'd often see 4-5 guilds competing in ToV, including Kittens.
Kittens competed totally fine in ToV with rooted dragons. They and Riot would commonly be racing around the ring. Kittens got their fair share of Vulak and Doze, etc.

Sucks that smaller guilds can't compete, but we don't need cheesy pulling tactics that eliminate doing the zone/raids as designed. I don't remember people using these pulling tactics on live and if they'd become widespread you can bet the EQ devs would've shut it down or done something like rooting the dragons.
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Old 07-21-2025, 11:06 AM
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hows 1 hour FTE lockout going?

oh wait theres only 1 guild anyway, nvm

they were a couple years late for this test/trial
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Old 07-21-2025, 11:12 AM
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Kittens competed totally fine in ToV with rooted dragons. They and Riot would commonly be racing around the ring. Kittens got their fair share of Vulak and Doze, etc.

Sucks that smaller guilds can't compete, but we don't need cheesy pulling tactics that eliminate doing the zone/raids as designed. I don't remember people using these pulling tactics on live and if they'd become widespread you can bet the EQ devs would've shut it down or done something like rooting the dragons.
there's also a mechanic that im not sure was present ever on p99- but Aaryonar is supposed to be aggro linked to Vulak and all his blockers.

ive only seen it happen once, but my guild in 2002 was engaged on Lady M, and Aary popped -- dude came all the way around the ring, brought all the spawns along the way and him and Lady M stomped our raid
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Old 07-21-2025, 02:13 PM
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there's also a mechanic that im not sure was present ever on p99- but Aaryonar is supposed to be aggro linked to Vulak and all his blockers.

ive only seen it happen once, but my guild in 2002 was engaged on Lady M, and Aary popped -- dude came all the way around the ring, brought all the spawns along the way and him and Lady M stomped our raid
Interesting. I'd be interested to see evidence that this was an intended mechanic as opposed to an aggro bug that your guild happened to experience
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Old 07-21-2025, 02:51 PM
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Interesting. I'd be interested to see evidence that this was an intended mechanic as opposed to an aggro bug that your guild happened to experience
I'm very interested as well - when I first started raiding on p99 I expected that to be a thing, I thought it was the devs way of saying "ya cant crawl ToV til ya kill Aary."

The guild raid leaders at the time seemed to think everyone was accounted for - and there was no competition so its not like an opposing guild trained us. You'd need basically a quad DA to get from Aary to Lady M - not sure anyone would have committed the resources to such a train way back in 2002.

Perhaps a bug, but it spooked me and everyone else raiding to always spot check for other dragons while engaged on blockers.
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Old 07-21-2025, 02:53 PM
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nobody was doing quad DA train aways in 2002 lmao
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Old 07-21-2025, 03:27 PM
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I know for a fact that all the Lords, Ladies and Aary were definitely aggro-linked to Vulak. And only a few of them were rooted (Aary was not) - so if they popped while on a Vulak engage, depending on the dragon you'd get Call of the Zero or theyd come to you (or a combination of both)
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Old 07-21-2025, 03:33 PM
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Interesting. I'd be interested to see evidence that this was an intended mechanic as opposed to an aggro bug that your guild happened to experience

From Allakhazam (and even p99 wiki has this)

"Aaryonar guards the entrance to the main ring of the northern wing. He will come to the aid of any other dragons if aggro'd before he is killed except the five in the very northern hall. "

Yeah, if he pops while youre killing any inner ring dragons, he should come after you.
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Old 07-21-2025, 05:29 PM
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hows 1 hour FTE lockout going?

oh wait theres only 1 guild anyway, nvm

they were a couple years late for this test/trial
Sanctum got Doz and some others.
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