The right to discriminate

[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, that's right: getting more illegal immigrants in your neighborhood will (statistically) lower the crime rate!

This is not true at all. The data on illegal immigrant crime rates is highly suspect *because* they are illegal. It's much harder to measure the crime rates of people who have an extra incentive to avoid detection in the first place.

There's also a difference between petty crime and violent crime. I'd much rather live in a neighborhood with 10 american shoplifters than one with zero american shoplifters but one illegal immigrant murderer.

It is not racist to notice that people who smuggle themselves into the country in cooperation with drug cartels might also be the type likely to commit further crimes. My family is largely scandinavian and if illegals from sweden were the issue at hand I wouldn't feel any differently about it.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Find me any (non-racist) source of immigrant crime statistics that shows they cause crime then. You can't, because reality doesn't agree with your racist BS worldview.

First of all you just quoted a propaganda mill.

Immigration Council: A non-profit organization committed to shaping the country's perspectives and actions toward immigrants.

Second of all: I could point you to the US justice system.

Or reality. We've let 40 million people into this country in the last 10 years, and in the same time put everything up in grocery stores behind locked glass doors.

But that's because the kids born here are just suddenly becoming more violent?

Like, you yourself are like, "if someone stole bread to feed their family, im ok with that"

Then you brought in 20 million people who had no bread into the country, and are like, "WHAT you SHOULD be discriminated against, because of all the bread being stolen!"

All so you can pay a few dollars less for goods because you think americans cost too much.

[loramin]

Reality: try living in it. Immigrants lower crime rates in reality ... just not in your fucked up imaginary hatred world.

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How will this policy interface with trans stuff? It should be entertaining at the very least.

in my hierarchy of drivers compared to my anxiety levels while in the back/passenger seat i'm sure i could piss everyone off.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is not true at all

The source for that was a protest organization who's goal in the company ABOUT section is to "shape" how we think about immigration.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reality: try living in it. Immigrants lower crime rates in reality ... just not in your fucked up imaginary hatred world.

The only thing it lowers is wages. And CNN knows this, which is why they don't report on anything but how much things will cost as a result of deportations.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is not true at all. The data on illegal immigrant crime rates is highly suspect *because* they are illegal. It's much harder to measure the crime rates of people who have an extra incentive to avoid detection in the first place.

There's also a difference between petty crime and violent crime. I'd much rather live in a neighborhood with 10 american shoplifters than one with zero american shoplifters but one illegal immigrant murderer.

It is not racist to notice that people who smuggle themselves into the country in cooperation with drug cartels might also be the type likely to commit further crimes. My family is largely scandinavian and if illegals from sweden were the issue at hand I wouldn't feel any differently about it.

The trend remains true for both violent and non-violent crime.

And you can speculate all you want "people who smuggle themselves into the country", but again ... reality doesn't agree with your imagination.

[Ekco]

fucking Reiwa thread about to get errrrybody banned.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

fucking Reiwa thread about to get errrrybody banned.

If you'd rather be consistent than be right, that's an ethos.

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[loramin]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The source for that was a protest organization who's goal in the company ABOUT section is to "shape" how we think about immigration.

What's it called when you have no leg to stand on, rationally, so all you can do is take pot shots at (one particular) messenger (even though there are hundreds of others all saying the same thing)?

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reality: try living in it. Immigrants lower crime rates in reality ... just not in your fucked up imaginary hatred world.

Look at all this bread they are feeding their families with!