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Old 07-30-2025, 12:53 PM
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Agree on many points. A harsher sentence typically is not going to on its own create deterrence because criminals IMO (as someone that watches a lot of tru crime) are typically very stupid people who tend to assume they won’t get caught, no matter how harsh the sentence

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Longer sentences still serve to physically protect the public via quarantining the threat away for longer

Of course we all hope for rehabilitation, but the rates of rehabilitation for sex offenders and pedo’s are some of the record lowest of any disorder, from I’ve heard. Of course the argument can be made that the rates are so low because of the methods and societies perception of the perpetrator. But it’s a chicken or the egg argument, is the perception based on the fact a lot of lay people do realize the rates of rehabilitation for this disorder are low, and have thus become disenfranchised with the idea of continuing to spend resources trying

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Old 07-30-2025, 01:03 PM
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There was already an "experiment", of sorts, conducted in Japan. They previously had child porn legal there, and then a few years back they made it legal. A win for everyone (or at least children who don't like being raped), right?

Actually, no: the number of reported child abuse cases went up, dramatically (see the third slide of this presentation): https://www.fmu.ac.jp/home/public_h/...%20handout.pdf).

It turns out, child predators already have plenty of incentive not to rape children; that's not the problem. It's like when the penalty for murder is 40 years in prison, and politicians change it to 50: it doesn't lower the murder rate, because no one thinks "well if it's only 40 years I'm totally going to kill this guy, but if it's 50 fuck that".

Same issue with sex offenders: it's not that there isn't enough deterrence, it's that they have (sick) urges which cause them to harm others despite the consequences. More threats don't help ... but giving those people an outlet for their urges, which doesn't harm anyone else, does.

If anyone is interested in learning more (doubtful in this forum), this article You’re 16. You’re a Pedophile. You Don’t Want to Hurt Anyone. What Do You Do Now? is fascinating. If people really want to stop child rape, it begins with understanding the sex offender as a human being ... but our own (human) biases make us want to do the exact opposite (and so, child sex abuse continues ... while idiots continue to pointlessly censor video games).
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Old 07-30-2025, 01:13 PM
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Noone is born cursed, ok? Noone.
Read the article I linked (You’re 16. You’re a Pedophile. You Don’t Want to Hurt Anyone. What Do You Do Now?). These are 16-year old kids: they don't want to be pedophiles!

Whether it's nature or nuture is irrelevant: being a 16-year old with the urge to molest children counts as "cursed" in my book.
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Old 07-30-2025, 02:47 PM
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"Gun free zones" totally stop mass shootings, because criminals see that sign and go "Oh ok, I guess I'm not allowed to bring this gun in there to do my mass shooting. Nevermind. Guess I'll go volunteer for doctors without borders."
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Read the article I linked (You’re 16. You’re a Pedophile. You Don’t Want to Hurt Anyone. What Do You Do Now?). These are 16-year old kids: they don't want to be pedophiles!

Whether it's nature or nuture is irrelevant: being a 16-year old with the urge to molest children counts as "cursed" in my book.
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Old 07-30-2025, 03:37 PM
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As a fellow gamer, these games are absolutely not needed and should gtfo of Steam etc. Good job Visa/Mastercard. Maybe someone could make a platform for degenerates and call it "SmutGamingHub" or something idk.
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As a fellow gamer, these games are absolutely not needed and should gtfo of Steam etc. Good job Visa/Mastercard. Maybe someone could make a platform for degenerates and call it "SmutGamingHub" or something idk.
I'd be more worried for the precedent it sets on a wider scale. Cash is still king for local businesses.
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Old 07-30-2025, 04:07 PM
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The best way to handle any problem is not to look at evidence and use reason ... it's to go with whatever your first instinct is, and stick to that "solution" no matter how poorly it works.
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I'd be more worried for the precedent it sets on a wider scale. Cash is still king for local businesses.
Exactly. It's going to be far more than just the banned games that are impacted; any game that doesn't want to be kicked off Steam is going to avoid adult elements as a result of this.
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