Is warrior aggro greatly exaggerated?

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On the other hand the exp highway mostly stops at karnor for a lot of people so you can afford it there but you couldn't train krups nonstop in seb the same way or kobolds in velks without getting worn down pretty fast.

Yeah, if you're pulling casting mobs, dispelling mobs, CHing mobs, etc - you want them split.

Buncha level 45-50 melee only skeletons isn't a problem, can be CCd with root.

The pulling 4-6 mobs at a time is great for EXP, but it only works in certain circumstances (all melee, all easily CCable, group has enough DPS to kill the mobs quickly)

When I was playing my enchanter I used to burn out quickly trying to AE mez for monks like this. After about 45 minutes of constant action (more action than if I was solo, for only 1/6th the experience), I get tired and camp for the night.

For an enchanter, it's much more lucrative to just solo than to be CCing for a monk too lazy to split out maybe 1-2-3 mobs at a time. If I'm grouping on my enchanter, it's because I want a more chill time than soloing, not a less chill time.

Remember true chain pulling? That's how I used to play my monk on live. Feign death and leave camp when the mob is at 40% to pull a new mob. Maybe just drop the single mob in camp without DPSing, and then go find another. Park them in safe spots for CC with root, so the group can just bounce from mob to mob.

That's the type of monk I desperately miss. Helps with warrior aggro too, when the warrior doesn't have to peel off an enchanter who is mezzing 6 mobs in camp from a lazy, useless monk.

[kjs86z2]

people who XP in KC 50-60 are useless

[PatChapp]

Only appeal to kc is that there's usually a group available, so if you have not the most tine its...something

[Drueric]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

people who XP in KC 50-60 are useless

People who do nothing but raid, are useless.

What was this topic about again?

[Lampolo]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’ve logged hundreds of hours in lower dogs/spiders with my buddy. Ench and cleric duo. Done seb with an ench and me on my cleric. Howling stones with ench pulling. The hole? Yep, that too…same combo. Geos? Yea enchanters can even pull there.

I’ve pulled with my pally in Seb and the Hole with ease. I’d post my Magelos but since I’ve been here since 2011 it’s plausible I’m not just making stuff up. It’s how I know a SK with rest the dead, snare, and FD might be able able to out-pull a warrior who has a bow, or that an ench can pull stuff.

After all that time it never occured to you that chanter shouldn't be pulling?

[PatChapp]

It really depends on the scenario. Enchanter is a great puller in small groups,but the cleric is better off pulling in the enc/clr duo.

[Lampolo]

Originally Posted by PatChapp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It really depends on the scenario. Enchanter is a great puller in small groups,but the cleric is better off pulling in the enc/clr duo.

No the enchanter is not a great puller in small groups. They need to med and have a huge to do list already.

[PatChapp]

Il be sure to tell myself that,next time im pulling on my enchanter in a small group.
Enchanter can lull to get singles. Can pull with slow, using the minimal first spell agro.
If your getting small pulls there's really not much cc required. The only risk is a pet break while pulling, which gets annoying.

[Lampolo]

Originally Posted by PatChapp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Il be sure to tell myself that,next time im tanking on my enchanter in a small group.
Enchanter can lull to get singles. Can tank with slow, using the minimal first spell agro.
If your getting small pulls there's really not much cc required. The only risk is a pet break while tanking, which gets annoying.

The same logic applies if the enchanter tanks. That doesn't mean enchanters are great tanks for small groups.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After all that time it never occured to you that chanter shouldn't be pulling?

Generally capable people who pick a CC class want to control situations. Offer all you want, if it’s a stubborn enchanter it’s not going to happen.

At least that’s what AI told me since as you said, I don’t even play these classes. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]