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Old 08-08-2025, 04:10 PM
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The same logic applies if the enchanter tanks. That doesn't mean enchanters are great tanks for small groups.
False equivalency, enchanters are terrible tanks but are great pullers.
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Old 08-09-2025, 09:00 AM
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After all that time it never occured to you that chanter shouldn't be pulling?
They're the only class oozing with charisma so it makes lulling easier, especially on 50+ mobs. They also have all the tools to reset/control the fight if something goes wrong.

Annnd if chanter dies you just click'em and toss them a heal, you lost 5 minutes. If you lose your cleric to a bad pull you just set your group back for god knows how long.

But yeah, if they're on slow/haste/crack/CC/pet duty, pulling on top of that can be a lot of work. BUT sometimes it is less work to pull singles/doubles than permanently juggling a pet and 4 mobs in camp.
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Old 08-09-2025, 10:10 AM
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Thanks you two for having the patience and words that I did not [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to continue to derail this (tho it was answered like on page 1), healing a pet with 10k hps is easily mana neutral, without even slowing. Even without C2 the only mana drain was casting stun command on pet breaks and topping off the enchanter (I GCD Divine Light slot 1). When stuff is really sketchy like a large room lull-out, we pacify the pet and I hide around the corner. It’s an easy reset.

The ench is the star, other classes support them, a pure melee offers very little support and only drains cleric mana. It’s 1994 Chicago Bulls, there is only one Jordan.

In a normal group? Sure why not. Even a duo with a shaman or a cleric. Your only way to split is relying on root or cleric lull, but nothing “wrong” with a warrior or its aggro so long as you are realistic (or not comparing it to a 200dps torched and Tolan robe monster).
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Old 08-13-2025, 08:55 PM
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By your definition rangers are better tanks since they have better aggro spells and damage compared to knights....
There's no value in having even better aggro spells than knights. It's completely trivial for a knight to hold aggro in all scenarios. Having even more isn't useful.

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Warriors do just fine aggro and do more damage than knights.
Nonsense. It takes a special level of intellectual dishonesty to claim that warriors can instantaneously grab unbreakable aggro on incoming. It's literally a lie.

Also, a warrior with aggro weapons won't do meaningfully higher DPS than a knight with a high-ratio 2h.
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Old 08-13-2025, 10:33 PM
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Lol at the few willing to argue chanters make good pullers. You are so bad at this game it's too much. I didn't want to keep posting cause this thread has been derailed. I feel sorry for you and the people subjected to your chanter pulls. YOU HAVE TO MEDITATE FOR MANA YOU MORONS! Why die on this hill when your so obviously wrong? Why are so many on these boards so diligent in making and defending ridiculous claims? Your all just like DSM. It must be the tism. How else can we reconcile these insane positions? Please stop telling noobs all this nonsense. There are way to many trash classes running around at lower levels because of all this bad advice.
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Old 08-13-2025, 10:41 PM
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Sk pally and ranger suck real bad. How are we even discussing this in 2025? Yes every class has a niche situation they do well in but half the classes in the game are dogshit compared to another in most situations. Sk are 99% dogshit HT eaters 1% useful
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Old 08-13-2025, 10:44 PM
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I would be mortified if I took the dumbass advice on this board. So many people start these useless classes and end up quitting cause they realize how useless they are. Look at the mage thread recently. Half you morons are telling noobs to start a shit class like a mag. Why you trolling the noobs? We should be helping them.
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Old 08-13-2025, 11:13 PM
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YOU HAVE TO MEDITATE FOR MANA YOU MORONS! Why die on this hill when your so obviously wrong?
Breeze, Clarity, Clarity II.
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Old 08-13-2025, 11:25 PM
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Lol at the few willing to argue chanters make good pullers. You are so bad at this game it's too much. I didn't want to keep posting cause this thread has been derailed. I feel sorry for you and the people subjected to your chanter pulls. YOU HAVE TO MEDITATE FOR MANA YOU MORONS! Why die on this hill when your so obviously wrong? Why are so many on these boards so diligent in making and defending ridiculous claims? Your all just like DSM. It must be the tism. How else can we reconcile these insane positions? Please stop telling noobs all this nonsense. There are way to many trash classes running around at lower levels because of all this bad advice.
Chanters are the master soloers by a long shot partly because they're great splitters so I'm not sure why you're acting like this is not possible in a group if you don't have a better puller available. When it comes to utility context is everything in this game.
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Old 08-13-2025, 11:37 PM
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Breeze, Clarity, Clarity II.
You still hav3 to med or your doing it wrong. Stop being a moron
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