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Old 08-13-2025, 11:39 PM
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Chanters are the master soloers by a long shot partly because they're great splitters so I'm not sure why you're acting like this is not possible in a group if you don't have a better puller available. When it comes to utility context is everything in this game.
I didn't say it wasn't possible for chanters to pull.

Splitting and pulling are two different things.

Stop being a moron
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Old 08-13-2025, 11:55 PM
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I definitly pull better as an enchanter than 99% of all the slow lazy pullers in every group im in ever! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-13-2025, 11:59 PM
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I definitly pull better as an enchanter than 99% of all the slow lazy pullers in every group im in ever! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Seems reasonable. I can relate. Ty for not claiming nonsense
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Old 08-14-2025, 12:03 AM
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You still hav3 to med or your doing it wrong. Stop being a moron
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Old 08-14-2025, 06:49 AM
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I didn't say it wasn't possible for chanters to pull.

Splitting and pulling are two different things.

Stop being a moron
IIRC the context was in a war/clr/enc group. Ench could make the most sense but in a group where you got someone else to pull I sure AF won't impose myself to pull as an ench unless the situation calls for it.
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Old 08-14-2025, 09:11 AM
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These forums are straight up cancer.
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Old 08-14-2025, 10:32 AM
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Is this guy like the warrior equivalent of Dsm and his shaman?

Enchanters don’t need to med with c2 and constant mobs to ToT like in HS where they should be pulling. Holding a pet doesn’t take much mana and you just have to be smart and use tepid over forlorn or just not slow at all as the cleric is usually fm nuking with c2 because pet hp + CH is op.

Warriors are not pullers, sorry. My sk/pal can do circles around them. And their dps is all comparable with 2h, same damage table. I also have a 60 war, the one time I felt they were suited for pulling was popping def to pull trains in velks since we had an aoe group but that was extremely situational. I’ve seen more wipes because of no snap aggro or just bad play than lack of tankability.

Are warriors a great essential class? Yes. Do they belong in every trio? No. Enc/cleric don’t need anybody 99% of the time. And if you do need someone it’s prob a monk or sk to do some fd pulls.
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Old 08-14-2025, 10:39 AM
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Warriors are the best pullers. They pull like six times as many mobs, which means six times as much xp and loot. That is just basic maths.

Sorry you didn’t put enough starting points into int. /em taps head knowingly.
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Old 08-14-2025, 10:50 AM
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Back to the original point of this post:

I was grouped with a shaman in Sol B Efreeti - and the shaman would cast slow IMMEDIATELY on every mob, and then run around frantically trying to root. Meanwhile, me, the warrior, would suggest "If you let me build a bit of aggro first, you won't pull aggro with slow."

Shaman responds: "Oh, I didn't know that"

It's not the warriors that are the problem - its the players that somehow got to level 52 and never learned how to play their class. I don't know why this is more common on p99 than it was on live. Maybe it's because people play half-paying attention while they watch Netflix or some such?

This wasn't as big of a problem on live back in the day. Warrior aggro doesn't stink - players who never learned to play their specific class stink. And there's plenty of guilds full of warmbodies that fit this bill. (See: monks that don't feign aggro, rogues that don't evade, shaman that don't stand under raid mobs when slowing, etc, etc, etc)
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Old 08-14-2025, 11:51 AM
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warrior aggro overexaggerated?
brother, warrior aggro is dogshit
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