Is warrior aggro greatly exaggerated?

[Zuranthium]

I wish Jimjam's theory about Nitestroke/Lampolo being a bot was true, but bots have better basic writing ability, so unfortunately that looks unlikely to be the case (also LOL at those accounts going online/offline at the same time, three times today that I've noticed).

Fortunately since you profess to being determined to show off leet skillz and how Warriors are essential to kill the hardest things in Trios, I'm sure in the coming months we'll be seeing lots of Trio and Solo challenge videos from you.

Originally Posted by greatdane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unless you're pulling for an AoE group or something, using defensive in group content is weird as fuck.

You want to use evasive disc, but maybe that's what they meant when they said "defensive", who knows.

[Nitestroke]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wish Jimjam's theory about Nitestroke/Lampolo being a bot was true, but bots have better basic writing ability, so unfortunately that looks unlikely to be the case (also LOL at those accounts going online/offline at the same time, three times today that I've noticed).

Fortunately since you profess to being determined to show off leet skillz and how Warriors are essential to kill the hardest things in Trios, I'm sure in the coming months we'll be seeing lots of Trio and Solo challenge videos from you.



You want to use evasive disc, but maybe that's what they meant when they said "defensive", who knows.

Are u admitting that you have no life at all enough to sit there and pinpoint all day when we are on vs when we aren't? Bruh first off thats a lie, second, get a life. Wow.

[Nitestroke]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wish Jimjam's theory about Nitestroke/Lampolo being a bot was true, but bots have better basic writing ability, so unfortunately that looks unlikely to be the case (also LOL at those accounts going online/offline at the same time, three times today that I've noticed).

Fortunately since you profess to being determined to show off leet skillz and how Warriors are essential to kill the hardest things in Trios, I'm sure in the coming months we'll be seeing lots of Trio and Solo challenge videos from you.



You want to use evasive disc, but maybe that's what they meant when they said "defensive", who knows.

Again you don't understand words. I never said I wanna show off elite skills. Ur delusional. Where did I say im leet? You gonna just keep lying hey right on lol. Get help

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by greatdane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's nothing about warriors that make them useful in group content. Outside of defensive disc, a warrior is like 5% more tanky than a knight. Unless you're pulling for an AoE group or something, using defensive in group content is weird as fuck.

The tank's DPS is largely irrelevant and warriors aren't significantly better DPS than a knight unless using actual DPS weapons and discs, which is mutually exclusive with tanking. There's no scenario where there's some kind of benefit to having a warrior as the tank.

With a knight tank, you get unbreakable aggro from the first moment of every fight so everyone can do whatever they want without any risk of taking aggro. Warrior aggro isn't stable until at least one proc, and in some cases, one proc isn't even enough. On top of that, knights bring bits and pieces of utility. A warrior brings literally none whatsoever.

Assuming max dex and two weapons with aggro procs, a warrior procs every 20 seconds on average. That's how long into a fight it typically takes before a warrior has stable aggro. A knight has stable aggro from the moment the mob gets into spellcasting range. You can literally start slowing/nuking on incoming.
That's really all there is to the discussion.

You don't use defensive ya fkin jabroni.

Evasive is amazing.

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by greatdane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's nothing about warriors that make them useful in group content. Outside of defensive disc,

As others have said - Evasive. That's the real disc to use.

But also, warriors have far better DPS in tunnel gear than knights do. Critical hits do alot of heavy lifting. I haven't duod with a knight, but warrior DPS is on par with ranger DPS around level 55.

Warriors also have the largest HP pool - which means less complete heals from the cleric. Warriors also get easy access to a weapon that procs 50% slow - which is huge if you're in a group without a shaman, enchanter, bard.

Knights are still better in groups for aggro management, but to say there's nothing about Warriors that makes them useful is hyperbolic nonsense.

[PatChapp]

Warriors do fine,I leveled mine mostly in groups.
In 99% of the cases they would have been better off with a monk in similar gear.

[Crede]

Ogre SK is by far the best group tank.

Snap aggro, FSI for channeling fds, crazy good stats, snare, etc. If I was forming a super trio it would be enc/cleric/sk.

War is only useful for their disc in the group scene. I'm not sure how many trioable mobs(if any) actually require war disc to win. If people start doing trio challenges with Zuranthium's list then I'm willing to be proven wrong. I have a 60 war, evasive was cool for pulling aoe trains. That was about it.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Nitestroke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never said I wanna show off elite skills

Must be why you said "this is coming from an enchanter main that can do things you never could. Give me a chance to prove it and I will"

And as for you swapping between accounts (or magically two people always going online/offline at the exact same time a bunch of times), it was simply noticed while posting.

[Nitestroke]

Originally Posted by Nitestroke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can tell this snaggles guy sticks to the newb content. Probably most of his time in kc that he doesn't realize when you are in tougher camps or zones, that anything besides warrior is a liability as tank in trio. I don't think he has any experience dealing with mobs that ch or gate also, warriors interrupt these spells all day everyday, paladins and sk get resisted and group wipes. Poor guy made a suboptimal tank and now he feels he has to defend his newb choice.

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Must be why you said "this is coming from an enchanter main that can do things you never could. Give me a chance to prove it and I will"

And as for you swapping between accounts (or magically two people always going online/offline at the exact same time a bunch of times), it was simply noticed while posting.

Thank you for quoting it, now show me where I said I wanna show off leet skills. Ur a newb, I don't need to be leet to outperform u lol

[Nitestroke]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't use defensive ya fkin jabroni.

Evasive is amazing.

Jabroni indeed lol, but yeah even evasive is "wierd af' to use in groups. Its downright creepy...sooo wierd lol

Wtf is with these ppl ill never know