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Old 09-06-2025, 01:39 PM
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You have to remember, DikuMUD (which EQ was largely based off) didn't even have tradeskills, so the very idea of having them in EQ was seen as new and controversial by the Verant devs. They were afraid that players crafting stuff would trivialize players killing stuff, and so they made tradeskills mostly useless.

Over time, as the player base complained, they started to embrace tradeskills more and more with each expansion. It eventually go to the point where, when they made their first non-EQ game (Star Wars Galaxies), maybe half the game was tradeskills!

But, back in classic, they really weren't a key part of the game; they were a tentatively added (almost) afterthought.
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Old 09-06-2025, 09:50 PM
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IIRC one of the dev said other games had them and they felt obliged to have them too so they added them begrudgingly last minute. Not sure if it is all BS due to lack of planning or just out of spite.
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Old 09-10-2025, 01:06 PM
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So is the consensus that a Troll shaman (Inny) has to make an ogre alt or use another char to buy all alchemy mats wherever they are? Probably not the end of the world, but could for sure be tedious when you are trying to make a stack of 10 buying the right amount and having a random fail

I could take the time to process the changes but is that the current consensus...or a better spot to buy the mats for leveling? I remember before I had a Shaman everyone complaining about the gypsys losing alchemy mats, assuming that was nerfed before green. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-10-2025, 01:37 PM
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further proof that Iksar is the superior race for Shamans, given that everything you ever would need is in Cabilis.

*Disclaimer: I've never done alch nor did I even bother fact checking myself, shooting the Iksar love from the hip*
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Old 09-10-2025, 02:30 PM
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further proof that Iksar is the superior race for Shamans, given that everything you ever would need is in Cabilis.

*Disclaimer: I've never done alch nor did I even bother fact checking myself, shooting the Iksar love from the hip*
Objectively speaking, when it comes to Monks or Necromancers, Iksar are the master race. They also make great Shadow Knights or Warriors ... but when it comes to Shaman, they clearly the absolute worst race.

Essentially, an Iksar Shaman is just a Troll Shaman who can never use a JBB (or wear any other plate item), can't get the snare necklace, and has lower stats (combined stamina/wisdom of Troll is 184, Iksar is 164). In exchange, they get forage, 100 swim, and a few points of AC.
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Old 09-10-2025, 02:46 PM
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So is the consensus that a Troll shaman (Inny) has to make an ogre alt or use another char to buy all alchemy mats wherever they are? Probably not the end of the world, but could for sure be tedious when you are trying to make a stack of 10 buying the right amount and having a random fail

I could take the time to process the changes but is that the current consensus...or a better spot to buy the mats for leveling? I remember before I had a Shaman everyone complaining about the gypsys losing alchemy mats, assuming that was nerfed before green. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Funnily enough I did most of my alchemy skill ups on my Ogre Shaman in Halas. Doesn't really matter what your starting race is, you can faction for any city you want to travel to.
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Old 09-10-2025, 11:46 PM
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Objectively speaking, when it comes to Monks or Necromancers, Iksar are the master race. They also make great Shadow Knights or Warriors ... but when it comes to Shaman, they clearly the absolute worst race.

Essentially, an Iksar Shaman is just a Troll Shaman who can never use a JBB (or wear any other plate item), can't get the snare necklace, and has lower stats (combined stamina/wisdom of Troll is 184, Iksar is 164). In exchange, they get forage, 100 swim, and a few points of AC.
but but but, every vendor bought shaman spell is available in Cabilis, no running to oasis or middle of a swamp or whatever. hours of travel time saved!
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